TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[NEKO]

This guy say it best:
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TAI TF-X / Milli Muharip Uçak MMU Kaan

These appear to be prototypes? Flight tests are expected to begin within this year, and the KARAT IRST can reportedly detect up to 100 targets and track up to 3 simultaneously.

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Yes.
But if president wanted it, MoF will listen.
This deal won't happen without president(ex MoD) agreement.

So, don't be too pessimistic.

 

[Umigami]

Yes.
But if president wanted it, MoF will listen.
This deal won't happen without president(ex MoD) agreement.

So, don't be too pessimistic.

"Asal bapak senang" huh?
I hope next administration will generous enough to continue

 

[NEKO]

"Asal bapak senang" huh?
I hope next administration will generous enough to continue

Little bit OOT but...
Next admin... very likely still prabs right? His rating curently is not bad, unless there's some big problems very likely he will stay in office till 2035.

In 2035, based on "KAAN delivery in 10 year" something something, maybe we will receive (almost) all of the 48 KAAN.

 

[uçuyorum]

Little bit OOT but...
Next admin... very likely still prabs right? His rating curently is not bad, unless there's some big problems very likely he will stay in office till 2035.

In 2035, based on "KAAN delivery in 10 year" something something, maybe we will receive (almost) all of the 48 KAAN.

One question, if it was an offset including stuff like palm oil would that still be the case? Turkey imports about 800 mil $ worth palm oil annually for instance, I had heard something about such an agreement

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Any news for KAAN based Aircraft carrier ?
We hear that TAİ started 6 gen for KAAN but not carrier based steath manned fighter jet ?!
And we are buidind full 300 meter aircraft carrier , we cant keep it just with drones and trained jets like Hürjets ?
İts time to work since aircraft carrier will take some 6 years to build at sea trials so we should work now to convert Kaan for carrier and not making mistakes like with S400 , and airforce that is smaller than others in our region ?
Did someone asked this question to TAİ IDEF?

 

[Oublious]

@TheInsider

Lets wait and see...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948858673482113178

 

[uçuyorum]

Will US even sell F47?

Wrt carrier based Kaan, we simply don't have the budget. Hurjet and drones will have to do. The journey to naval aviation is long and we have a lot of work to do. We might have a full carrier with a stealth fighter in 20 years if economy doesn't collapse.

 

[uçuyorum]

Will US even sell F47?

Wrt carrier based Kaan, we simply don't have the budget. Hurjet and drones will have to do. The journey to naval aviation is long and we have a lot of work to do. We might have a full carrier with a stealth fighter in 20 years if economy doesn't collapse.

Not to mention, china also starter with stobar with Russian style carrier and jets and now are moving to Cato bar with their stealth jets. I think we would go a similar pace, but this also follows China's incredible growth. Our economy is stagnating. A better economy is required for all that.

 

[TheInsider]

@TheInsider

Lets wait and see...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948858673482113178

I told you. If I know Trump, Trump will force Japan to buy F-47 as mafia-style "protection money". F-47 will be available for Japan sooner than GCAP.

 

[Agha Sher]

Spain decided to cancel their F-35 acquisition even though they had committed 6.3 bnEUR to the purchase. Could they become a partner for KAAN after joining the Hurjet program?

 

[Huelague]

Spain decided to cancel their F-35 acquisition even though they had committed 6.3 bnEUR to the purchase. Could they become a partner for KAAN after joining the Hurjet program?

After all the cooperation with Türkiye, it would be a logical choice.

 

[uçuyorum]

Spain decided to cancel their F-35 acquisition even though they had committed 6.3 bnEUR to the purchase. Could they become a partner for KAAN after joining the Hurjet program?

Well they are partner in SCAF and F35B doesn't really have an alternative for Juan Carlos I. They could be aiming for upgrading Juan Carlos for KE or build a new carrier with us to use with drones and use harriers in that duration. Buying F35A for them isn't realistic since they are also buying more eurofighters and partnering for SCAF. But, after the recent demand from France and Dassault for 80% work share, and Belgium's attempt to join and backing out, since they work so closely with us, Kaan could be realistic

 

[Huelague]

Well they are partner in SCAF and F35B doesn't really have an alternative for Juan Carlos I. They could be aiming for upgrading Juan Carlos for KE or build a new carrier with us to use with drones and use harriers in that duration. Buying F35A for them isn't realistic since they are also buying more eurofighters and partnering for SCAF. But, after the recent demand from France and Dassault for 80% work share, and Belgium's attempt to join and backing out, since they work so closely with us, Kaan could be realistic

Spain doesn’t need fighter jets immediately like the east European countries. Spain is far away from any battlefields, like Poland or Türkiye.

 

[Merzifonlu]

I told you. If I know Trump, Trump will force Japan to buy F-47 as mafia-style "protection money". F-47 will be available for Japan sooner than GCAP.

From what I understand of the Plaza Accords, any US president would certainly implement this approach. Even if Obama were president instead of Trump, the US would force Japan to purchase the F-47 and withdraw from the GCAP program.

 

[Zafer]

Egypt is interested in being in the Kaan project, so do we make a gift wrap of 48 pieces.

 

[uçuyorum]

From what I understand of the Plaza Accords, any US president would certainly implement this approach. Even if Obama were president instead of Trump, the US would force Japan to purchase the F-47 and withdraw from the GCAP program.

Or buy both and become overpowered. They do have a very strong economy

 

[Agha Sher]

Or buy both and become overpowered. They do have a very strong economy

Their economy is incredibly weak. 220% debt to GDP ratio, no growth, deflation and a detrimental birth rate.

Japan is dying and taking massive loans to buy expensive weapons will just accelerate the process.

 

[TheInsider]

Or buy both and become overpowered. They do have a very strong economy

Not for long. They have a debt problem. For now, it is manageable, but they are on the verge of a population crisis, so I doubt that debt can be managed forever.

 

[fushkee]

Come to your father’s side, Espana!

 

[Sanchez]

even though they had committed 6.3 bnEUR to the purchase

They hadn't. In 2023, they had approved a bill that would use up to 6.3 billion euros to replace Harriers of the navy and the F-18s of the air force. Spain never went past RFI for F-35s, never committed.

Regardless, F-35B was the only real high performance replacement for the Harrier, so it was thought that they would order some for the navy.

With FCAS also not looking too good politically at the moment, they're in for a reconfiguring. Unless they go with a Germany-free Dassault post FCAS, they don't have a suitable replacement for the Harriers at the moment. This goes against the planned future carrier to replace Juan Carlos. Why shouldn't Spain entertain Hürjet Naval and drones like we do? It is possible. But Kaan is a much taller order.