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Yes.
But if president wanted it, MoF will listen.
This deal won't happen without president(ex MoD) agreement.

So, don't be too pessimistic.
"Asal bapak senang" huh?
I hope next administration will generous enough to continue
 

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"Asal bapak senang" huh?
I hope next administration will generous enough to continue
Little bit OOT but...
Next admin... very likely still prabs right? His rating curently is not bad, unless there's some big problems very likely he will stay in office till 2035.

In 2035, based on "KAAN delivery in 10 year" something something, maybe we will receive (almost) all of the 48 KAAN.
 

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Little bit OOT but...
Next admin... very likely still prabs right? His rating curently is not bad, unless there's some big problems very likely he will stay in office till 2035.

In 2035, based on "KAAN delivery in 10 year" something something, maybe we will receive (almost) all of the 48 KAAN.
One question, if it was an offset including stuff like palm oil would that still be the case? Turkey imports about 800 mil $ worth palm oil annually for instance, I had heard something about such an agreement
 

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Looks like KAAN's internal cannon will be the second product shown in this video (nothing official yet).
Please use english subtitle.


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Any news for KAAN based Aircraft carrier ?
We hear that TAİ started 6 gen for KAAN but not carrier based steath manned fighter jet ?!
And we are buidind full 300 meter aircraft carrier , we cant keep it just with drones and trained jets like Hürjets ?
İts time to work since aircraft carrier will take some 6 years to build at sea trials so we should work now to convert Kaan for carrier and not making mistakes like with S400 , and airforce that is smaller than others in our region ?
Did someone asked this question to TAİ IDEF?
 

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Will US even sell F47?

Wrt carrier based Kaan, we simply don't have the budget. Hurjet and drones will have to do. The journey to naval aviation is long and we have a lot of work to do. We might have a full carrier with a stealth fighter in 20 years if economy doesn't collapse.
 

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Will US even sell F47?

Wrt carrier based Kaan, we simply don't have the budget. Hurjet and drones will have to do. The journey to naval aviation is long and we have a lot of work to do. We might have a full carrier with a stealth fighter in 20 years if economy doesn't collapse.
Not to mention, china also starter with stobar with Russian style carrier and jets and now are moving to Cato bar with their stealth jets. I think we would go a similar pace, but this also follows China's incredible growth. Our economy is stagnating. A better economy is required for all that.
 

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Will US even sell F47?

A possible sale of the F-47 to Tokyo was raised during a phone call between Trump and Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba last week, according to a report from the Japanese daily newspaper Asahi Shimbun. According to this source, the short-notice call was confirmed by Ishiba administration officials and came just before a visit to the United States by Ryosei Akazawa, Japan’s top trade negotiator, for talks on Trump’s economic tariffs.
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When announcing the F-47 contract award, Trump said that U.S. allies “are calling constantly” with a view to obtaining an export version of the NGAD fighter. He said that the United States would be selling them to “certain allies … perhaps toned-down versions. We’d like to tone them down about 10 percent, which probably makes sense, because someday, maybe they’re not our allies, right?”

 

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Spain decided to cancel their F-35 acquisition even though they had committed 6.3 bnEUR to the purchase. Could they become a partner for KAAN after joining the Hurjet program?
After all the cooperation with Türkiye, it would be a logical choice.
 

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Spain decided to cancel their F-35 acquisition even though they had committed 6.3 bnEUR to the purchase. Could they become a partner for KAAN after joining the Hurjet program?
Well they are partner in SCAF and F35B doesn't really have an alternative for Juan Carlos I. They could be aiming for upgrading Juan Carlos for KE or build a new carrier with us to use with drones and use harriers in that duration. Buying F35A for them isn't realistic since they are also buying more eurofighters and partnering for SCAF. But, after the recent demand from France and Dassault for 80% work share, and Belgium's attempt to join and backing out, since they work so closely with us, Kaan could be realistic
 

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Well they are partner in SCAF and F35B doesn't really have an alternative for Juan Carlos I. They could be aiming for upgrading Juan Carlos for KE or build a new carrier with us to use with drones and use harriers in that duration. Buying F35A for them isn't realistic since they are also buying more eurofighters and partnering for SCAF. But, after the recent demand from France and Dassault for 80% work share, and Belgium's attempt to join and backing out, since they work so closely with us, Kaan could be realistic
Spain doesn’t need fighter jets immediately like the east European countries. Spain is far away from any battlefields, like Poland or Türkiye.
 

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I told you. If I know Trump, Trump will force Japan to buy F-47 as mafia-style "protection money". F-47 will be available for Japan sooner than GCAP.
From what I understand of the Plaza Accords, any US president would certainly implement this approach. Even if Obama were president instead of Trump, the US would force Japan to purchase the F-47 and withdraw from the GCAP program.
 

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From what I understand of the Plaza Accords, any US president would certainly implement this approach. Even if Obama were president instead of Trump, the US would force Japan to purchase the F-47 and withdraw from the GCAP program.
Or buy both and become overpowered. They do have a very strong economy
 

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Or buy both and become overpowered. They do have a very strong economy

Their economy is incredibly weak. 220% debt to GDP ratio, no growth, deflation and a detrimental birth rate.

Japan is dying and taking massive loans to buy expensive weapons will just accelerate the process.
 

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