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Any person that opposes a 2-state solution, approves the continued racial atrocity of marginalising a whole group for daring to survive an ethnic cleansing.
 

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Italy has no saying in this issue.. Also EU shouldn't have but due to mistakes by our politicians they become a party.. Normally guarantors Britain Turkey Greece and Two community are the negotiating parties under the roof of UN. No one else can interfere, not France, not Germany, Russia or USA.. But support for South Cy has been on rise since AKP shouting everyone in Foreign Policy.. Israel never been a partner to Greeks become closest Ally.. Egypt, UAE, France and list goes on.
 
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Any person that opposes a 2-state solution, approves the continued racial atrocity of marginalising a whole group for daring to survive an ethnic cleansing.

This is not a unique situation across the world.

But I don't see a threat of ethnic cleansing. Bizonal federation and job done.
 

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This is not a unique situation across the world.

But I don't see a threat of ethnic cleansing. Bizonal federation and job done.

My friend I belive you’re blind. Social engineering and what not is happening many places as we speak. If you think ethic cleansing is only killing then you are wrong.
 

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Well, back then Greeks were 75% of the population controlling a non federate state with 70% representation today Greek Cyprus has population of 860K and TRNC has officially 382K but normally around 450k to 500k. We are controlling 36% of the land so population is not problem, leave that idea, it is already overpopulated island.. 3000 km2 and 500 000 people.. Also Turkish Cypriots who has a seat in EU parliament and legal owners of lands in the eyes of EU and UN has 130k to 180k population in TRNC (more than 500k to 750K around the world). Quality beats quantity.. In a loose federation with two state, there is no way that they can dominate us unless Turkey leave us alone and Turkey would have a Trojan horse in EU. In all talks negotiation made to include people who moved to Cyprus after 1974 from Turkey. Even in Annan plan there was a 50K allowance to those who moved before 2000s. But They always put a limit, so either negotiation would end for eternity or they would forced back to go Turkey if you send 100 000s more people here. As a local I don't want anymore population here, already overcrowded with poor infrastructure...

Do you know that healthcare is free even if you are not citizen. Our economy mostly collapsed after huge increase in population as our government could not invest much on infrastructure, education and healthcare. So the water pipeline Turkey made, Hospitals and Roads are for that population increase whose are also Turkish Citizens. Turkish Cypriot population is stationary, nobody have more than 2 children here. When Turkish Cypriots extinct problem will be solved 🙃😉
 

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Well I don't want to be ungrateful, I mean EU is sending us some vaccines, funding to support businesses and some scholarships recently / Despite it is small in compare to aid given by Turkey, it is a sign of support at least. However, although I don't support Tatar he said well.. EU is still bunch of unfair hypocrites and they have no place in this issue. Now I understand why they were racing with Turkey to give us aid.

Source: http://www.t-vine.com/greek-bias-costs-eu-observer-role-at-upcoming-cyprus-talks/

‘Greek bias’ costs EU observer role at upcoming Cyprus Talks​


Josep Borrell’s visit to the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus on Friday didn’t generate the results he was hoping for, after the Turkish Cypriot President Ersin Tatar rebuffed his efforts for the European Union to attend as observers at the upcoming Cyprus summit.

President Tatar issued a statement following his 5 March meeting with the EU’s High Representative for Foreign Affairs/Commission Vice-President, explaining why he had declined the request:

“I also informed Mr Borrell that we could not accept their participation in the five-plus-UN informal meeting. Greece and South Cyprus are EU members and it is not realistic to expect the EU to be a neutral party in these meetings.”

Europe’s top diplomat had travelled to the island to meet with the two Cypriot leaders, TRNC President Ersin Tatar and the Republic of Cyprus President Nicos Anastasiades, ahead of the 5+1 informal meeting in Geneva at the end of April.

Alongside the Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots, the three guarantor powers, Turkey, Greece, and the United Kingdom, will also attend the summit, which is being hosted by the United Nations.

President Tatar: “Greece and South Cyprus are EU members and it is not realistic to expect the EU to be a neutral party in these meetings”

UN Secretary General António Guterres had called the informal meeting to allow the two Cypriot sides to explore whether “common ground” exists for a new round of negotiations following the change of leadership in the TRNC last year.

Tatar was elected in October pledging to pursue a 2-state solution in Cyprus. His policy deviates from the internationally accepted framework of a bi-communal, bi-zonal federation, which was established in 1977, but which President Tatar says is “exhausted” after decades of failed talks.

Cyprus was ethnically split in 1964 when Greek Cypriots seized control of the Republic of Cyprus and brought an end to power-sharing with Turkish Cypriots. The division became permanent after a Greece-backed coup on the island in 1974 forced Turkey to intervene as a guarantor power to curb massacres against the island’s Turkish population.

A Population Exchange Agreement in 1975 paved the way for two ethnic territories in Cyprus: a Turkish North and a Greek South.

Borrell’s pro-Greek Cypriot bias? EU High Representative Josep Borrell’s 2 tweets about his meetings with the two Cypriot sides strikingly different in tone



Despite forty years of negotiations and at least eight different federation proposals in a variety of UN sponsored talks, it has not been possible for the two sides to agree on a permanent settlement to reunify the island.

Greek Cypriots walked out of the last opportunity in Crans Montana, Switzerland, in July 2017, and they also voted against the UN’s Annan Plan to unify the island in 2004.

EU confidence of attending Cyprus Talks misplaced

The EU had assumed it could play a more direct role in the latest Cyprus talks. European Council President Charles Michel told reporters after a video conference with European leaders on 26 February that the EU “will be very committed” to the UN-led talks.

Responding to a question from Greek Cypriot daily paper the Cyprus Mail, Michel said that the EU had been an observer in the past, “and we will still be an observer in this 5+1 process regarding the Cyprus settlement.”

A week later, the message to the EU from the White House in Lefkoşa was somewhat different.

During a frank 2-hour exchange, President Tatar told Borell that the EU was not welcome to attend the Geneva talks due to the bloc’s bias in favour of its Greek Cypriot member.

Greek Cypriot EU veto diplomacy “creating problems” for Turkish Cypriots since 2004

President Tatar highlighted a number of issues to the High Representative where Turkish Cypriots were being constantly disadvantaged in Europe at the behest of Greek Cypriots.

One example Tatar cited was the process for “the registration of the Geographical Indication of hellimand trading the product through the Green Line Regulation”, which the Turkish Cypriot leader said was being delayed by the Greek Cypriot side “creating problems”.

Hellim, or Cypriot cheese, accounts for 25% of the TRNC’s manufactured output. However, Turkish Cypriots have been prevented from selling their core product to the EU since Cyprus’ admission to the bloc in May 2004 due to Greek Cypriot orchestrated restrictions on TRNC dairy producers.

Greek Cypriots have been able to sell their halloumi/hellim (Cyprus cheese) across the EU, while preventing Turkish Cypriots from doing the same


Another trade problem the Turkish Cypriot President brought up was the shipping of potatoes to Europe. Unlike hellim, farmers in North Cyprus are allowed to sell potatoes to the EU, but only after they have been checked by a certified inspector. “Due to the fact that there is only one person on the inspection list that has been appointed by the European Commission”, President Tatar said, “the technical official is unable to reach the crop sowing season”, which had meant “approximately 2,000 tonnes of potatoes could not be traded”.

The European Commission had promised Turkish Cypriots direct trade back in April 2004, but Greek Cypriots scuppered this as soon as the island became an EU member the following month.

Using their veto, Greek Cypriot authorities forced the EU to first suspend its laws and rules in North Cyprus, essentially depriving Turkish Cypriots the benefits of EU membership. They then got the direct trade directive dropped in favour of a Green Line Regulation that requires all Turkish Cypriot goods intended for sale in Europe to go via South Cyprus first, despite this adding considerable time and costs to buyers and traders.

A more recent issue also affected by Greek Cypriot discrimination is the distribution of Covid-19 vaccines provided by the EU. President Tatar claimed, the North was receiving “only one in 10 of what the Greek Cypriot side has received” from European supplies for Cyprus. The population of North Cyprus is approximately one third of the whole island.

Josep Borrell’s take on his Cyprus visit

The EU released a statement after Borrell’s Cyprus. It noted that he had met with “President Nicos Anastasiades and Foreign Minister Nikos Christodoulides” to discuss the “latest developments and prospects for progress in the efforts to revive the negotiations on ending the division of the island.”

The statement went on to relegate Ersin Tatar to the status of a community “leader”, making no reference to his democratic 2-state mandate following last year’s Presidential Election. It recorded that Borrell and Tatar had met “to discuss the Cyprus issue and related EU measures to promote the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot community and bring the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot communities closer together.”

“I met the two Cypriot leaders and come out of the talks believing that while the road ahead will not be easy, solutions can be found. I encouraged them to seize the opportunity of the 5+1 informal meeting in Geneva next month and come to the talks prepared to compromise. The European Union fully supports the resumption of the Cyprus settlement process under UN auspices, as soon as possible,” the High Representative was quoted.

Borrell recalled that this process was not starting from scratch: “There is a framework, including UN Security Council resolutions, with convergences to build on, with the support of the UN, the Guarantor Powers and the European Union. It will not be an easy process but it can be done, for the benefit of all Cypriots, for Europe, and for regional stability,” Josep Borrell explained.

During his visit to Cyprus, High Representative Borrell also held meetings with Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General Elisabeth Spehar and with Colonel Neil Wright, who heads UNFICYP – the UN’s peacekeeping forces in Cyprus.
 
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Source: http://www.t-vine.com/greek-bias-costs-eu-observer-role-at-upcoming-cyprus-talks/

‘Greek bias’ costs EU observer role at upcoming Cyprus Talks​


Josep Borrell’s visit to the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus on Friday didn’t generate the results he was hoping for, after the Turkish Cypriot President Ersin Tatar rebuffed his efforts for the European Union to attend as observers at the upcoming Cyprus summit.

President Tatar issued a statement following his 5 March meeting with the EU’s High Representative for Foreign Affairs/Commission Vice-President, explaining why he had declined the request:

“I also informed Mr Borrell that we could not accept their participation in the five-plus-UN informal meeting. Greece and South Cyprus are EU members and it is not realistic to expect the EU to be a neutral party in these meetings.”

Europe’s top diplomat had travelled to the island to meet with the two Cypriot leaders, TRNC President Ersin Tatar and the Republic of Cyprus President Nicos Anastasiades, ahead of the 5+1 informal meeting in Geneva at the end of April.

Alongside the Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots, the three guarantor powers, Turkey, Greece, and the United Kingdom, will also attend the summit, which is being hosted by the United Nations.


UN Secretary General António Guterres had called the informal meeting to allow the two Cypriot sides to explore whether “common ground” exists for a new round of negotiations following the change of leadership in the TRNC last year.

Tatar was elected in October pledging to pursue a 2-state solution in Cyprus. His policy deviates from the internationally accepted framework of a bi-communal, bi-zonal federation, which was established in 1977, but which President Tatar says is “exhausted” after decades of failed talks.

Cyprus was ethnically split in 1964 when Greek Cypriots seized control of the Republic of Cyprus and brought an end to power-sharing with Turkish Cypriots. The division became permanent after a Greece-backed coup on the island in 1974 forced Turkey to intervene as a guarantor power to curb massacres against the island’s Turkish population.

A Population Exchange Agreement in 1975 paved the way for two ethnic territories in Cyprus: a Turkish North and a Greek South.

Borrell’s pro-Greek Cypriot bias? EU High Representative Josep Borrell’s 2 tweets about his meetings with the two Cypriot sides strikingly different in tone



Despite forty years of negotiations and at least eight different federation proposals in a variety of UN sponsored talks, it has not been possible for the two sides to agree on a permanent settlement to reunify the island.

Greek Cypriots walked out of the last opportunity in Crans Montana, Switzerland, in July 2017, and they also voted against the UN’s Annan Plan to unify the island in 2004.

EU confidence of attending Cyprus Talks misplaced

The EU had assumed it could play a more direct role in the latest Cyprus talks. European Council President Charles Michel told reporters after a video conference with European leaders on 26 February that the EU “will be very committed” to the UN-led talks.

Responding to a question from Greek Cypriot daily paper the Cyprus Mail, Michel said that the EU had been an observer in the past, “and we will still be an observer in this 5+1 process regarding the Cyprus settlement.”

A week later, the message to the EU from the White House in Lefkoşa was somewhat different.

During a frank 2-hour exchange, President Tatar told Borell that the EU was not welcome to attend the Geneva talks due to the bloc’s bias in favour of its Greek Cypriot member.

Greek Cypriot EU veto diplomacy “creating problems” for Turkish Cypriots since 2004

President Tatar highlighted a number of issues to the High Representative where Turkish Cypriots were being constantly disadvantaged in Europe at the behest of Greek Cypriots.

One example Tatar cited was the process for “the registration of the Geographical Indication of hellimand trading the product through the Green Line Regulation”, which the Turkish Cypriot leader said was being delayed by the Greek Cypriot side “creating problems”.

Hellim, or Cypriot cheese, accounts for 25% of the TRNC’s manufactured output. However, Turkish Cypriots have been prevented from selling their core product to the EU since Cyprus’ admission to the bloc in May 2004 due to Greek Cypriot orchestrated restrictions on TRNC dairy producers.

Greek Cypriots have been able to sell their halloumi/hellim (Cyprus cheese) across the EU, while preventing Turkish Cypriots from doing the same


Another trade problem the Turkish Cypriot President brought up was the shipping of potatoes to Europe. Unlike hellim, farmers in North Cyprus are allowed to sell potatoes to the EU, but only after they have been checked by a certified inspector. “Due to the fact that there is only one person on the inspection list that has been appointed by the European Commission”, President Tatar said, “the technical official is unable to reach the crop sowing season”, which had meant “approximately 2,000 tonnes of potatoes could not be traded”.

The European Commission had promised Turkish Cypriots direct trade back in April 2004, but Greek Cypriots scuppered this as soon as the island became an EU member the following month.

Using their veto, Greek Cypriot authorities forced the EU to first suspend its laws and rules in North Cyprus, essentially depriving Turkish Cypriots the benefits of EU membership. They then got the direct trade directive dropped in favour of a Green Line Regulation that requires all Turkish Cypriot goods intended for sale in Europe to go via South Cyprus first, despite this adding considerable time and costs to buyers and traders.

A more recent issue also affected by Greek Cypriot discrimination is the distribution of Covid-19 vaccines provided by the EU. President Tatar claimed, the North was receiving “only one in 10 of what the Greek Cypriot side has received” from European supplies for Cyprus. The population of North Cyprus is approximately one third of the whole island.

Josep Borrell’s take on his Cyprus visit

The EU released a statement after Borrell’s Cyprus. It noted that he had met with “President Nicos Anastasiades and Foreign Minister Nikos Christodoulides” to discuss the “latest developments and prospects for progress in the efforts to revive the negotiations on ending the division of the island.”

The statement went on to relegate Ersin Tatar to the status of a community “leader”, making no reference to his democratic 2-state mandate following last year’s Presidential Election. It recorded that Borrell and Tatar had met “to discuss the Cyprus issue and related EU measures to promote the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot community and bring the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot communities closer together.”

“I met the two Cypriot leaders and come out of the talks believing that while the road ahead will not be easy, solutions can be found. I encouraged them to seize the opportunity of the 5+1 informal meeting in Geneva next month and come to the talks prepared to compromise. The European Union fully supports the resumption of the Cyprus settlement process under UN auspices, as soon as possible,” the High Representative was quoted.

Borrell recalled that this process was not starting from scratch: “There is a framework, including UN Security Council resolutions, with convergences to build on, with the support of the UN, the Guarantor Powers and the European Union. It will not be an easy process but it can be done, for the benefit of all Cypriots, for Europe, and for regional stability,” Josep Borrell explained.

During his visit to Cyprus, High Representative Borrell also held meetings with Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General Elisabeth Spehar and with Colonel Neil Wright, who heads UNFICYP – the UN’s peacekeeping forces in Cyprus.

In Australia, Greek Australian politicians banned Turkish made goods from coming into Australia.

Only way we get Turkish made stuff is from Germany. Turkish made stuff gets sent to Germany from there to Australia.

Shows what a bunch of c**** they are not surprising how our Turkish cypriots brothers cant even trade due to the Greeks.
 

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TRNC asks EU to revise hellim cheese registration process
"Stakeholders in the famous hellim (halloumi in Greek) cheese sector in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus’ (TRNC) have written an open letter to the European Commission Structural Reform Support Director General Mario Nava regarding the protected designations of origin (PDO) process of the cheese. They said the proposed laws of the EU may harm recognition of Turkish Cypriots' hellim cheese while they together with the Greek side's unilateral acts pose a risk to the export of the cheese to the European Union market."

Avrupa Komisyonu hellim tescilini onayladı (Approved including both Sides)


"Avrupa Komisyonu geleneksel olarak Kıbrıs’ta üretilen Halloumi/Hellim’in 1151/2012 Numaralı AB kalite yasası adı altında coğrafi tescilini oy birliği ile kabul etti.

Avrupa Komisyonu'nun coğrafi tescili onaylaması ile adanın hem kuzeyinde hem de güneyinde, Avrupa standartlarında üretilecek hellimin Avrupa Birliği pazarına girebilmesi öngörülüyor.

Rum Lider Nikos Anastasiadis hellimle ilgili sosyal medya hesabından yaptığı paylaşımda, hellimin coğrafi tescili ile tüm Kıbrıslı üreticilerin yararına bir koruyucu kalkan ve ulusal ürünün ihracatının artması için büyük bir perspektif yaratılacağını belirtti."
 

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May i ask you why the series "Bir zamanlar Kibris" is so heavilly criticized in KKTC? Saw comments of KKTC citizens and couldn't believe how ridiculous condescending they were.
 
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I know we suck at diplomacy so bad its ridiculous and its getting worse.

It needs pragmatic focused Turkish leadership that is tough where it needs to be and flexible where it needs to be.

i.e Actual nationalism without too much dreaming or polarisation internally (just for politics).

More energy spent there, of course diplomacy and foreign policy (esp very nuanced long term stuff) is going to suffer.

Security defined paradigm stuff also suffers as everything is acted upon or perceived in certain mould already constructed for that political purpose and that polarises/reinforces things easily among those convinced and even lot of neutrals (I have seen this with lot of foreign laypeople w.r.t Turkey in last 10 years or so).

Hopefully this decade, a better leadership is found for Turkey. It is very crucial part of world to have secure and confident/settled in itself rather than fighting itself inside.

Turkey defined and rational goals and objectives geopolitically will then gather more natural organic pace to it.

This goes for most countries in general, you will see when they have more wasting/conflict of time/energy internally...their foreign scope for strength and influence suffers.
 

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May i ask you why the series "Bir zamanlar Kibris" is so heavilly criticized in KKTC? Saw comments of KKTC citizens and couldn't believe how ridiculous condescending they were.

It's our fault. We acted as if Cyprus belongs solely to the Northern Cypriots when in fact it's always been a part of the greater Turkish nation. I'm from Elazığ and Rize is also part of my homeland just like Ankara or Kars. Northern Cyprus is a province of the Republic of Turkey and it should be reclaimed by us. Every Turkish citizen who holds a Southern Cypriot passport should be kicked out of the Turkish citizenship.
 

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May i ask you why the series "Bir zamanlar Kibris" is so heavilly criticized in KKTC? Saw comments of KKTC citizens and couldn't believe how ridiculous condescending they were.
When it has been shared here, I was going to write about this.. but than I decided that It does not worth to be lynched or demonized again :)) And actually still waiting to see the first episode, I think we still need to see it before criticizing. It is really disliked up to now, both with shooting scandals and script which is a complete propaganda tool. I had great expectations, our struggle is not less worthy than jewish struggle against nazi's or else. A pianist like movie is my dream :p But it is TRT.. AKP.. it is what they want to show and promote
 

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