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Unite Cyprus is motto of supporters of Federal (Two State) Solution. Greek Administration never says lets unite.. They always say end the occupation leave our land we are legitimate owner.. This is funny. Turks were the ones saying yes to unite Cyprus not Greeks.

ANCA should have told Armenian soldiers to GTFO out of Karabakh first.
 

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Lets hope that those statements will open some eyes and there will not be satisfactory solution to them until turkish cypriots bend the knee to their conditions.
 

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Sadly, the US is actually a part in this issue
The EU nor the US will never allow TRNC to be independent. Unfortunately, the initial plan was to ethnically remove the turkish cypriots and replace them with greek lover fanatics, during the last coup, in order to encage turkey as much as possible; it is sort of like a precaution in case of the re-emergence of turkey

Now that this plan is gone forever, they are trying to mitigate the damage by making a federation and I can bet that after a max of 7 years from the federation founding, a new coup will appear to kick the turkish cypriots out.

Many fail to realise that greece especially crave Cyprus; some might ask why...... and the answer to that is their ridiculous claim in the Eastern Meditteranean. The greeks themselves know that their lovely claim of taking most of the Eastern Mediterranean using very small islands in the aegean is ridiculous and wont be accepted. However, if an island as big as cyprus were to join greece, then the greek dream of taking everything in East Med. Is nothing but certain.
And the EU prefers to have its own "European" gas fields as well as preventing turkey from rising as they know the consequences of it
The Greeks believe that if they did that they will achieve prosperity and here iam betting that france will just squander everything from them along with the US

The turkish cypriots are in this cluster fu*** and they must take independece or face extinction. That is why the TRNC must improve their military and economy through nationalisation and show the greek side that the answer to their dreams are........ HELL NO!
 

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Let’s not forget that the situation became absolutely clusterfuck after allowing GC to join EU.
 

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Many fail to realise that greece especially crave Cyprus
Where do you read this bs? :LOL: Have you asked the Cypriots if they want a union with Greece? I have to inform you that we don't have any imperialistic aspirations in the region like the wannabe sultan!
 

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Ofcourse they are void and null.. Turkey won't ever accept one state or giving up Northern Cyprus it is off the table completely.. There have been a defacto 2 states for almost 50 years now
 

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Sadly, the US is actually a part in this issue
The EU nor the US will never allow TRNC to be independent. Unfortunately, the initial plan was to ethnically remove the turkish cypriots and replace them with greek lover fanatics, during the last coup, in order to encage turkey as much as possible; it is sort of like a precaution in case of the re-emergence of turkey

Now that this plan is gone forever, they are trying to mitigate the damage by making a federation and I can bet that after a max of 7 years from the federation founding, a new coup will appear to kick the turkish cypriots out.

Many fail to realise that greece especially crave Cyprus; some might ask why...... and the answer to that is their ridiculous claim in the Eastern Meditteranean. The greeks themselves know that their lovely claim of taking most of the Eastern Mediterranean using very small islands in the aegean is ridiculous and wont be accepted. However, if an island as big as cyprus were to join greece, then the greek dream of taking everything in East Med. Is nothing but certain.
And the EU prefers to have its own "European" gas fields as well as preventing turkey from rising as they know the consequences of it
The Greeks believe that if they did that they will achieve prosperity and here iam betting that france will just squander everything from them along with the US

The turkish cypriots are in this cluster fu*** and they must take independece or face extinction. That is why the TRNC must improve their military and economy through nationalisation and show the greek side that the answer to their dreams are........ HELL NO!
If you read books that are not biased about the issue.. written by real people who experienced the events from first hand. You would see that 1974 was an NATO plan from the beginning to create a frozen conflict an divide the island. Check arms transfers between US and Turkey between 1970 and 74.. Frigates, Transport Planes, Helicopters. Makarios or Cyprus was courting with Soviets and Junta in Greece was out of control.

US and UK wanted to divide island and place NATO troops to the island and cut possible Soviet access to the Cyprus. People who fought along side Turkish Troops said, maps were already drawn when the troops came, brits have it, UN have it and TAF have the maps. Of course US was a party from the beginning even though propaganda machine create heroic story. And US embargo was just a show off to prove neutrality. What happened was our mistake, we wanted to save more villages, more regions and get out of US plan, Varosha never been in the map that is why it become a huge obstacle in legality of TRNC.. TRNC itself was not in the plan, we supposed to be federate state. We didn't follow their plans and they punished US till eternity. Think how much hustle or problem we could have avoided or how TRNC would prosper if it were a legit state. Don't exaggerate Greeks too much and don't underestimate Turks, US and UK were slightly on our side we messed up things and they still want to impose their way of solution to US.. Look how Taiwan is today, despite it is unrecognized.. US supports it.

FYI, today Greek Cypriots don't like Greece too much neither they want to unite, they are just dependent as they can't face Turkey alone.

Only way to stop extinction of Turksish Cypriots is obeying international law and solving the issue piece by piece, correcting mistakes.. Not challenging to the West or International Law.
 
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Ofcourse they are void and null.. Turkey won't ever accept one state or giving up Northern Cyprus it is off the table completely.. There have been a defacto 2 states for almost 50 years now
There never been a one state solution on the table since 1974.. It was always two state federation (separate zones, divided) Debate was always how fedaration would be, will it be loose like confederation or EU states or like Belgium, Bosnia etc. No one would give up Northern Cyprus ever, please do your research. We never accept to return same situation in 1960s. However Two different completely independent Country is not (never) accepted by EU, US, UK, Greeks, UN and it is forbidden according to agreements we signed in 1960.. So how do you solve it without finding common ground if they don't and never accept two countries.

FYI Turkey was pushing us for two state federal solution until 2017 and suddenly Turkey changed course.. We will see what is behind this in coming years.. are they really confident or just bluffing
 

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Let’s not forget that the situation became absolutely clusterfuck after allowing GC to join EU.
Denktas and Mumtaz Soysal allow them to join.. to cripple Turkey and TRNC and make the situation unsolvable. Tansu Çiller sold us for getting in to Trade Union, Ecevit sold us to start application process to EU and Denktaş scored the final rejecting the talks..

A state with border issues cannot join EU..!.. Çiler accepted Cyprus to start application process in return Turkey getting into Trade Union in 1995.. Ecevit in 1999 or 98 accepted Cyprus to become member state in 2004 (if Cyprus solve the issues) in return Turkey starting application process. 2002 Denktaş accept Greeks joining without North to EU.. EU said two state will unite as federation then join to EU together, Denktaş didn't attend to talks, left.. and EU said then Greeks would join without you.. We overthrow Denktaş but it was too late when we said yes.. Before 1983 we had a Federate / separate state which is accepted by the West as temporary authority, without isolations and embargoes.. even if they warned US, Denktaş and his buddies declare TRNC (he was a lawyer, who knows international law), they created a crippled fail state and rule another 20 years (Because he had to leave the office after 1984). People are so naive, believing nationalistic stories and propaganda without seeing how corrupt the politicians are. Some people are heroes in your eyes (holy) because you are manipulated, and real heroes are forgotten.
 
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See, they don't want us to give properties to Greeks back, because this is the core of the Cyprus issue and reason for isolation.. We can only beat them by inviting Greeks to North, either giving their houses, offering exchange (properties in the south) or paying the price to take the title deed. This is the only correct way to open Varosha. Even though they created a different hype, Erdogan actually called Greeks to come and get their lands.


"The National Council warned on Wednesday that possible claims by Varosha refugees to the immovable properties commission (IPC) over their properties carried risks because it furthers Turkey’s goal of partition."

 
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Mate I understand what you’re saying. And we’re probably all frustrated over the treatment, and the mistakes being made. Which is why I hope that KKTC can progress and more trade routes can be opened with other countries, even if we leased Mersin Harbour to KKTC indefinitely or such. But we’re cursed with leaders that doesn’t seem to value economic stability.

Only book from when it happened by a danish officer in danish. I think failure to tell the world about the bad stuff aka propoganda material or whatever you want to call it is not working in our favor.
 

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Let’s not forget that the situation became absolutely clusterfuck after allowing GC to join EU.
Ist that even against the agreement signed between Turkey, Greece and UK where its stated that the Island is not allowed to joing a military or economic alliance with any of the three states?
By joining EU Cyprus joined alliance with Greece and UK so i dont really get it.
 

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Ist that even against the agreement signed between Turkey, Greece and UK where its stated that the Island is not allowed to joing a military or economic alliance with any of the three states?
By joining EU Cyprus joined alliance with Greece and UK so i dont really get it.

Exactly I tried to explain that.. it is against 1960 agreements and also EU legislation. Neither Cyprus can join a union without guarantors being part of it nor EU allow states with border problems into the Union..

Turkey allowed it.. Turkey sold us as usual, as always.. wake up and don't believe propaganda.. It is all about interests...

This is it --->
Denktas and Mumtaz Soysal allow them to join.. to cripple Turkey and TRNC and make the situation unsolvable. Tansu Çiller sold us for getting in to Trade Union, Ecevit sold us to start application process to EU and Denktaş scored the final rejecting the talks..

A state with border issues cannot join EU..!.. Çiler accepted Cyprus to start application process in return Turkey getting into Trade Union in 1995.. Ecevit in 1999 or 98 accept Cyprus to become member state in 2004 (if Cyprus solve the issues) in return Turkey starting application process. 2002 Denktaş accept Greeks joining without North to EU.. EU said two state will unite as federation then join to EU together, Denktaş didn't attend to talks, left.. and EU said then Greeks would join without you.. We overthrow Denktaş but it was too late when we said yes.. Before 1983 we had a Federate / separate state which is accepted by the West as temporary authority, without isolations and embargoes.. even if they warned US, Denktaş and his buddies declare TRNC (he was a lawyer, who knows international law), they created a crippled fail state and rule another 20 years (Because he had to leave the office after 1984). People are so naive, believing nationalistic stories and propaganda without seeing how corrupt the politicians are. Some people are heroes in your eyes (holy) because you are manipulated, and real heroes are forgotten.
 

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If you read books that are not biased about the issue.. written by real people who experienced the events from first hand. You would see that 1974 was an NATO plan from the beginning to create a frozen conflict an divide the island. Check arms transfers between US and Turkey between 1970 and 74.. Frigates, Transport Planes, Helicopters. Makarios or Cyprus was courting with Soviets and Junta in Greece was out of control.

US and UK wanted to divide island and place NATO troops to the island and cut possible Soviet access to the Cyprus. People who fought along side Turkish Troops said, maps were already drawn when the troops came, brits have it, UN have it and TAF have the maps. Of course US was a party from the beginning even though propaganda machine create heroic story. And US embargo was just a show off to prove neutrality. What happened was our mistake, we wanted to save more villages, more regions and get out of US plan, Varosha never been in the map that is why it become a huge obstacle in legality of TRNC.. TRNC itself was not in the plan, we supposed to be federate state. We didn't follow their plans and they punished US till eternity. Think how much hustle or problem we could have avoided or how TRNC would prosper if it were a legit state. Don't exaggerate Greeks too much and don't underestimate Turks, US and UK were slightly on our side we messed up things and they still want to impose their way of solution to US.. Look how Taiwan is today, despite it is unrecognized.. US supports it.

FYI, today Greek Cypriots don't like Greece too much neither they want to unite, they are just dependent as they can't face Turkey alone.

Only way to stop extinction of Turksish Cypriots is obeying international law and solving the issue piece by piece, correcting mistakes.. Not challenging to the West or International Law.

What a bunch of BS.

You put too much faith in the West and International law.

International law is just bs imposed by bigger powers on the weak. Its meant to be broken.

Stop playing by their game. West prefers Greek cypriots over Turkish thats why they signed your death warrant for decades in other words they dont mind seeing you dead.

Love it how you try to disprove race out of this geopolitical issue. Its always been about race and ethnicity.
 

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You could have worded your post differently to reduce the antagonizing people. And still make a point. That’s called diplomacy.
 

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