TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

[Huelague]

Christophe Gomart Warns: European F-35s at Risk of US Control

European F-35s would not be able to fly without permission from the US Pentagon.

www.amyna.news

Good thing we got Kaan going, that yellow haired monkey can scratch my balls. Maybe some countries will cancel F-35 purchases.

Sneaky French advertise their own fighter jet.

 

[Iskander]

F-35 gear in Turkey set for U.S. move, JPO plans sea transport
By Boyko Nikolov On Mar 4, 2025

The U.S. Department of Defense’s F-35 Joint Program Office has launched a market survey to relocate manufacturing and testing equipment for the F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter from Turkey back to the United States, signaling a significant shift in the jet’s global supply chain, according to a November 2024 report from the office...

F-35 gear in Turkey set for U.S. move, JPO plans sea transport

U.S. reclaims F-35 equipment from Turkey, with sea transport set to bring production tools from TAI to California, reshaping the jet’s supply chain, says JPO.

bulgarianmilitary.com

I wonder what will happen next?
Will Netanyahu order Trump to close Incirlik airbase?

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1898699886121329040

 

[No Name]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1898699886121329040

Don't all F 35s already have a kill switch since they need regular updates of code from the United States to work properly?

 

[what]

Not defending the F35 or buying American. But its pure speculation:

Für Trump brisante F-35 Kampfjet-Problematik: Deutschlands „Kill Switch“-Befürchtungen?

Für beide Seiten ein „risky business“: Trumps Drohungen destabilisieren das Vertrauen seiner Alliierten; er will auch bei seinen Waffen das Sagen behalten.

www.merkur.de

Heres another German article that weighs in, that the statement is speculative and no one knows of its existence and that it might as well be BS spread to push the sale of European products. I dont have any stakes in this battle, so I'm just here to enjoy the show.

 

[TR_123456]

Don't all F 35s already have a kill switch since they need regular updates of code from the United States to work properly?

Who knows,i think its just a signal sent on a certain frequency to disable the control of the aircraft.
Dont think you need upgrades for that(maybe?).

 

[Yasar_TR]

Who knows,i think its just a signal sent on a certain frequency to disable the control of the aircraft.
Dont think you need upgrades for that(maybe?).

According to the Canadian sites it is only possible to disable the sensor suites and some avionics, turning a marvel of a plane to a pumpkin of a plane.
But even that can be open to arguments.
Canadians have on order 88 of these planes. So rightfully they are questioning the logic of buying them from a country whose current president calling their PM a governor and their country the 51st state.

Canada is Worried All Its F-35 Can Be Disabled With a Push of a Button in Washington: How Realistic It is | Defense Express

Canada has ordered 88 F-35A fighters for $14.5 billion, and now they are really discussing whether the Pentagon can press a special button and turn all those aircraft into scrap metal if necessary

en.defence-ua.com

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Canadian expert circles have expressed concerns about the ongoing acquisition of American F-35 fifth-generation fighters and to consider whether the government should cancel the deal. A brief reminder: Ottawa ordered 88 F-35As in 2023 for 14.5 billion (hereinafter) US dollars. The Canadian Ministry of Defense also has estimated the F-35's operational costs for a projected 45 years in service at $54 billion.

unquote

 

[TR_123456]

According to the Canadian sites it is only possible to disable the sensor suites and some avionics, turning a marvel of a plane to a pumpkin of a plane.

Still the question remains,how?

 

[Huelague]

Not defending the F35 or buying American. But its pure speculation:

Für Trump brisante F-35 Kampfjet-Problematik: Deutschlands „Kill Switch“-Befürchtungen?

Für beide Seiten ein „risky business“: Trumps Drohungen destabilisieren das Vertrauen seiner Alliierten; er will auch bei seinen Waffen das Sagen behalten.

www.merkur.de

Heres another German article that weighs in, that the statement is speculative and no one knows of its existence and that it might as well be BS spread to push the sale of European products. I dont have any stakes in this battle, so I'm just here to enjoy the show.

Who still believes their is no „kill switch“ system on F-35 is not naive. He is just stupid. And nothing more.

US cut off targeting systems on HIRMAS in Ukraine right now.

 

[Huelague]

Still the question remains,how?

Radar, satellite..datalink

 

[what]

The thing is, the Americans dont need a kill switch. If you need a repair, new parts anything really, you are already bound to the US anyway. But what do I care, speculate all you want.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

It doesn't really matter now whether the F-35s have a kill switch or not.
What's crystal clear at the moment is that the U.S. is not a trustworthy or a reliable ally.
We Turks have experienced this when the other partner countries in the JSF program happily followed the U.S. dictate of kicking us out.
S-400s you say? BS!
They've recently offered them to India. No problem there.

 

[Barry]

Honestly it's refreshing seeing the US treat white nations like they're brown nations. Get to see what the rest of the world feels like when it comes to the USA.

 

[Nutuk]

If everyone is afraid about an F35 kill switch than it is something more than speculation.

 

[Saithan]

It doesn't change the fact that in this high tech era, it's necessary to have a fighter jet that can perform crucial tasks without being interrupted. Also it's become important for countries to diversify their defence procurement.

Israel is most definitely going to diversify and has been working steadily towards fostering relations with countries that has production power and can supply Israel in case the US gives it the cold shoulder. India, China, (Russia), and most likely UAE from backdoors. And most likely some EU countries as well.

I believe F16 V, and EF T3-4 could very well be the fallback solutions.

 

[TR_123456]

Israel is most definitely going to diversify and has been working steadily towards fostering relations with countries that has production power and can supply Israel in case the US gives it the cold shoulder. India, China, (Russia), and most likely UAE from backdoors. And most likely some EU countries as well.

Highly unlikely,without the US Israel is done.
China Russia even India wouldnt dare piss off the GCC and other Muslim countries,oil gas/other weapon systems/economic benefits etc.

I believe F16 V, and EF T3-4 could very well be the fallback solutions.

Not when all the rest has 5th gen fighter jets in the future.

 

[Saithan]

Highly unlikely,without the US Israel is done.
China Russia even India wouldnt dare piss off the GCC and other Muslim countries,oil gas/other weapon systems/economic benefits etc.

They would most likely use 3rd, 4th party shipments for their acquisition if you ask me. Even finance a middleman to retag stuff to appear from somewhere else.

I seriously doubt anyone is controlling or reporting the armament type dropped by Israel, or where it came from. Israel will just bomb the people trying to do that.

Not when all the rest has 5th gen fighter jets in the future.

Yes, but there is still a long way to that, and since insurgents and terrorists have become the militia mostly used in fights having 4th and 4,5th gen should be more than sufficient, also with regards to potentially defending against BM.

 

[TR_123456]

They would most likely use 3rd, 4th party shipments for their acquisition if you ask me. Even finance a middleman to retag stuff to appear from somewhere else.

I seriously doubt anyone is controlling or reporting the armament type dropped by Israel, or where it came from. Israel will just bomb the people trying to do that.

Yeah,thats not gonna happen.
3rd 4th party acquisition in fighter jets is not possible these days or in the future.
And bombing people besides the Palestinian territories wont stay unnoticed.
Israel already has the world against it,any other dumb move wont stay unpunished.
Those days are over.

Yes, but there is still a long way to that, and since insurgents and terrorists have become the militia mostly used in fights having 4th and 4,5th gen should be more than sufficient, also with regards to potentially defending against BM.

Israel has enough 4th gen fighter jets,why would it need more?

 

[Saithan]

Yeah,thats not gonna happen.
3rd 4th party acquisition in fighter jets is not possible these days or in the future.
And bombing people besides the Palestinian territories wont stay unnoticed.
Israel already has the world against it,any other dumb move wont stay unpunished.
Those days are over.

I wasn't thinking of fighterjets, but more like armaments, ammo, bombs and such. It would be suicide to try buy anything but US jets, and such.

Israel has enough 4th gen fighter jets,why would it need more?

I never said anything about Israel needing 4th og 4,5 gen. It's for EU and Türkiye mostly as well as other countries that can't immediately buy 5th gen.

This is what happens when we start replying to several different things in one post

 

[TR_123456]

I wasn't thinking of fighterjets, but more like armaments, ammo, bombs and such. It would be suicide to try buy anything but US jets, and such.

Germany,France,UK under the table.

I never said anything about Israel needing 4th og 4,5 gen. It's for EU and Türkiye mostly as well as other countries that can't immediately buy 5th gen.

This is what happens when we start replying to several different things in one post

Bro,this your post 895,


''It doesn't change the fact that in this high tech era, it's necessary to have a fighter jet that can perform crucial tasks without being interrupted. Also it's become important for countries to diversify their defence procurement.

Israel is most definitely going to diversify and has been working steadily towards fostering relations with countries that has production power and can supply Israel in case the US gives it the cold shoulder. India, China, (Russia), and most likely UAE from backdoors. And most likely some EU countries as well.

I believe F16 V, and EF T3-4 could very well be the fallback solutions.''


My answer was to this.