TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

[Sanchez]

That would only look suspicious and we already know that it is no different from an iphone for being insidious.

They could just not spend millions on donations to US politicians to boot Turkey out of JSF; but they did that.

There's nothing suspicious about anything. Israel worked for more than 5 years actively to make sure Turkey didn't get F-35s and it is still working actively to keep the laws that enabled this to stay on line. And then we have Bibi and even Greek PM on live TV saying "Turkey not being able to get F-35s is actually great for us".

Only Turkey's rivals and some small onset of Turks support Turkey NOT getting F-35s. It's comical.

 

[Ryder]

That would only look suspicious and we already know that it is no different from an iphone for being insidious.

Everybody wants a Ferrari you know it.

Same with the F35 everybody wants it even if they deny it.

 

[Sanchez]

Barrack's latest to Bloomberg; can be read as an update on the Turkish F-35s

"They were part of the F-35 program, they have four F-35s in hangars in California, and Turkey was a major part of the airframe production."

First time hearing 4 F-35s instead of 6. Also dispels the claims that there are no aircraft in the hangars.

 

[Zafer]

F35 is a threat to Türkiye, it can spy on Turkish systems and report to hostile parties.

 

[Sanchez]

Meanwhile Israel is working overtime to put a wrench in the diplomacy.

"Netanyahu held a meeting this month with Frank St. John, COO of Lockheed Martin. Subject: Block Saudi Arabia & Turkey from obtaining F-35 jets.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1999484890526679258

Netanyahu reluctant to challenge Trump over F-35 sales to Saudi Arabia and Türkiye - Türkiye Today

Netanyahu plans to raise concerns about potential US sales of F-35 fighter jets to Saudi Arabia and Türkiye during his Dec. 29 meeting with Trump

www.turkiyetoday.com

 

[IC3M@N FX]

F35 is a threat to Türkiye, it can spy on Turkish systems and report to hostile parties.

Turkey needs the F-35 fighter jets, for better or worse.
It is also about being able to carry US nuclear weapons in a conflict with Russia/China, however unlikely that may be. The F-16 will reach EoL by 2035+ at the latest; the aircraft is technologically obsolete, and there is no longer any official upgrade path. The aircraft is being phased out, and even the US only wants to use the F-16 for home defence or as a zombie drone.
In addition, Turkey wants to use the Eurofighter and F-35 as reference platforms for its further development of future KAAN blocks for comparison. The Israelis know this and are terrified that Turkey will be able to produce TAI KAAN as mature GEN 5.5+ fighter aircraft from 2034+ that would be completely ITAR-free.

 

[Zafer]

S400 is already protecting Türkiye from the lethal F35; if it weren't for the S400 F35 could step in Türkiye and cause some damage that will not be immediately detectable as it is a latent damage that we will suffer from in the future. Russia has no interest waging a war with Türkiye and China is a country far far away. If we need to protect ourselves from a nuclear country we will do it ourselves and not rely on someone else. F35 can only serve the purpose of a connector putting Türkiye in the same cohort as the US otherwise we can neither study the F35 to learn from it nor can we use if for any beneficial purpose to us. And Netanyahu is helping a lot too, I will give him that.

As much as F35 is an F word never to be said by us it should not be said by Saudi Arabia either as we want them to say Kaan, again Netanyahu to the rescue.