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[YeşilVatan]

What do you guys think about rocket assisted takeoffs?

 

[Boykaz]

Bayraktar TB3 took off from 110 meters, wow.
also Tcg Anadolu 232 meters

 

[Sanchez]

Bayraktar TB3 took off from 110 meters, wow.
also Tcg Anadolu 232 meters

That's a touch and go test, not a regular take off.

 

[Saithan]

https://x.com/conflicttr/status/1726963738425860581?s=46&t=DEy7rapS0QQE2YE7LHul5g

So anyone heard of this attempt to run off with harddisk ?

 

[Saithan]

https://x.com/tei_tusas/status/1726990619170799634?s=46&t=DEy7rapS0QQE2YE7LHul5g

TB3 test using TEI engine. Nice, really nice

 

[Anmdt]

https://x.com/conflicttr/status/1726963738425860581?s=46&t=DEy7rapS0QQE2YE7LHul5g

So anyone heard of this attempt to run off with harddisk ?

Strange, if i read correctly the personnel attempted to stole an internal harddisk. First of all the computers have their cases locked, where only IT may unlock with a physical key and install a hardware. Then, there is a strict rule on no electronics in, no electronics out (except of the phones given to the personnel, which has many functions disabled by enterprise mode). And this is rule is consistently applied and security is no chill about it.
This is either an intern, or a silly and inefficient personnel who may taught of attempting this. Last option this was a large scale espionage involving IT, Security and personnel granted an access to all files.
Fun fact, files are rarely kept in local storages in a meaningful way unless the user draws them from the server for project related uses.

 

[UkroTurk]

https://x.com/tei_tusas/status/1726990619170799634?s=46&t=DEy7rapS0QQE2YE7LHul5g

TB3 test using TEI engine. Nice, really nice

For TB-3 Why TEI PD-170 why not PD-180 ST which is lighter and more powerful?

Edit: why not PD -222ST which weights as same as PD-170 /180ST?

EDIT 2:

At 30k altitude, PD-170 generates more power then PD-180/222 so it must be the reason.

As you can see currently there is no alternative to Turboprops.

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[boredaf]

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For TB-3 Why TEI PD-170 why not PD-180 ST which is lighter and more powerful?

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Edit: why not PD -222ST which weights as same as PD-170 /180ST?

View attachment 63158

EDIT 2:

At 30k altitude, PD-170 generates more power then PD-180/222 so it must be the reason.

As you can see currently there is no alternative to Turboprops.

LiquidPiston Enters the UAV Arena with a Revolutionary Rotary Engine

On March 6th, LiquidPiston Inc., an advanced internal combustion engine technology company, announced its intention to enter the UAV market with a revolutionary rotary engine aimed at powering medium

www.commercialuavnews.com

Liquid Piston’s Rotary Engine Could Boost UAS, Accelerate eVTOLs | Aviation Week Network

DARPA funded power and efficiency testing of a new type of rotary engine that promises compact, lightweight and reliable power for unmanned aircraft and air taxis.

aviationweek.com

Now i can understand why Americans want to develop rotary technology.

50kg generates 200hp.

Rotron RT1200-P Quad Wankel Rotary Engine

Rotron RT1200-P Quad-Rotor Concept Unlocking new potential in rotary engine design The highest rung of the displacement ladder, the RT1200-P concept quad-rotor engine is one of the most technically advanced Rotron engines. Combining the highest level of specification and technology, this...

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Freedom Motors

Freedom Motors is now producing one of the most flexible, efficient, durable and powerful engines in history: <strong>The Rotapower® rotary engine.</strong>

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PD-222ST is the new engine they were developing, not sure if a prototype has been tested on the ground let alone on a new drone, or maybe not even built yet.

 

[Rodeo]

PD-222ST is the new engine they were developing, not sure if a prototype has been tested on the ground let alone on a new drone, or maybe not even built yet.

It's being tested on the bench and it'll fly next year

 

[Kartal1]

View attachment 63156


For TB-3 Why TEI PD-170 why not PD-180 ST which is lighter and more powerful?

View attachment 63157






Edit: why not PD -222ST which weights as same as PD-170 /180ST?

View attachment 63158

EDIT 2:

At 30k altitude, PD-170 generates more power then PD-180/222 so it must be the reason.

As you can see currently there is no alternative to Turboprops.

LiquidPiston Enters the UAV Arena with a Revolutionary Rotary Engine

On March 6th, LiquidPiston Inc., an advanced internal combustion engine technology company, announced its intention to enter the UAV market with a revolutionary rotary engine aimed at powering medium

www.commercialuavnews.com

Liquid Piston’s Rotary Engine Could Boost UAS, Accelerate eVTOLs | Aviation Week Network

DARPA funded power and efficiency testing of a new type of rotary engine that promises compact, lightweight and reliable power for unmanned aircraft and air taxis.

aviationweek.com

Now i can understand why Americans want to develop rotary technology.

50kg generates 200hp.

Rotron RT1200-P Quad Wankel Rotary Engine

Rotron RT1200-P Quad-Rotor Concept Unlocking new potential in rotary engine design The highest rung of the displacement ladder, the RT1200-P concept quad-rotor engine is one of the most technically advanced Rotron engines. Combining the highest level of specification and technology, this...

rotronpower.com

Freedom Motors

Freedom Motors is now producing one of the most flexible, efficient, durable and powerful engines in history: <strong>The Rotapower® rotary engine.</strong>

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Maybe also price is a factor here. According to people with knowledge the price of PD-170 is already very high due to the fact it is packed with a lot of functions. If PD-170's price is high maybe the prices of PD-180 or the PD-222 is even higher. I am only speculating here. TB-3 (or tuned down version of it) would eventually replace our TB-2's in time and maybe we want to keep the price as low as possible. I am only speculating so don't take me serious on that

 

[Era_shield]

Strange, if i read correctly the personnel attempted to stole an internal harddisk. First of all the computers have their cases locked, where only IT may unlock with a physical key and install a hardware. Then, there is a strict rule on no electronics in, no electronics out (except of the phones given to the personnel, which has many functions disabled by enterprise mode). And this is rule is consistently applied and security is no chill about it.
This is either an intern, or a silly and inefficient personnel who may taught of attempting this. Last option this was a large scale espionage involving IT, Security and personnel granted an access to all files.
Fun fact, files are rarely kept in local storages in a meaningful way unless the user draws them from the server for project related uses.

Just guessing here since no details are given but normally (excluding special equipment used by govt/banks/etc) the type of lock used on computer cases is low security, it's only really meant to prevent opportunistic theft. The keys are easy to get. It could also be talking about a laptop, which can be opened with a screwdriver. To me the description sounds like a disgruntled employee or an employee who was bribed by a competitor. A serious espionage attempt would be more sophisticated, for example using a special tiny USB key which doesn't even look like a USB key, and only needs to be plugged in and can automatically image all the drives onto itself.

 

[Anmdt]

Just guessing here since no details are given but normally (excluding special equipment used by govt/banks/etc) the type of lock used on computer cases is low security, it's only really meant to prevent opportunistic theft. The keys are easy to get. It could also be talking about a laptop, which can be opened with a screwdriver. To me the description sounds like a disgruntled employee or an employee who was bribed by a competitor. A serious espionage attempt would be more sophisticated, for example using a special tiny USB key which doesn't even look like a USB key, and only needs to be plugged in and can automatically image all the drives onto itself.

If i recall correctly, no peripherals (except permitted like keyboard etc.) work on those computers.

 

[Era_shield]

If i recall correctly, no peripherals (except permitted like keyboard etc.) work on those computers.

That's good to hear, it means Baykar is taking security seriously.

Fun fact for readers: the reason motherboards with PS/2 ports are still made is because of this. The USB ports are completely disabled for security reasons so only PS/2 mice and keyboards can be used.

 

[Sanchez]

President Erdoğan:

Now they are conducting the final tests of the Kızılelma. The challenge we have to overcome is to produce our own indigenous engine...

Aselsan has a burden here: camera production. Unfortunately, engine production takes five years. In this process, we have to import engines

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1727268458130506165

Full rate production for TF6000 confirmed as 5 years?

 

[Merzifonlu]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1727268458130506165

Full rate production for TF6000 confirmed as 5 years?

I think TF-10000 for KE, not TF-6000. If KE's testing is nearing completion, I think that's great news. A period of 5 years is foreseen for the TF-10000 Engine to enter mass production. This is an achievable goal, but still an ambitious one.

 

[Sanchez]

I think TF-10000 for KE, not TF-6000. If KE's testing is nearing completion, I think that's great news. A period of 5 years is foreseen for the TF-10000 Engine to enter mass production. This is an achievable goal, but still an ambitious one.

I'm not so sure. We know that TF6000 will be on the KE. TF10k is not even brought up yet in regards to its milestones.

 

[Quasar]

I'm not so sure. We know that TF6000 will be on the KE. TF10k is not even brought up yet in regards to its milestones.

especially if we consider the fact that TF10000 is TF6000 with afterburner... spending 5 years mainly for afterburner section can not be tha case I guess

 

[Zafer]

5 years is in a slow pace which is the norm. You can put it on the fast track and count months. TEI have already left some years behind in this engine development.

 

[Yasar_TR]

especially if we consider the fact that TF10000 is TF6000 with afterburner... spending 5 years mainly for afterburner section can not be tha case I guess

Please don’t forget that, although TF10K shares its core with TF6K, these engines are quite different.
When a 6000lbf thrust is augmented suddenly to 10000lbf as afterburner kicks in; that 4000lbf sudden thrust will crush the engine. Therefore the TF10K has to be built to better specs to withstand the sudden jolt.

There is however no reason to build the TF6K to the better specifications due to cost issues.

You are correct that as the TF10K is a derivative of TF6K. Hence it shouldn’t take too long to muster. But nevertheless it is a new engine and has to be tested as such.

 

[Saithan]

I have a question (that I probably could google), but when you turn on the afterburner, you're talking about sudden increase in speed and thus higher pressure, but is it possible to gradually turn on the afterburner in steps to minimize the sudden thrust ?