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FPV drones with autonomy already beat human champions like Bogeyman showed.

I can't remember which film it was (seen so many sci fi, iron man I think) but there was one film in which the hunter has drones attached to his suite, much like the miniature version of these FPV drones and on command they decouple and attack the enemy.

We are scary close in realizing these sci fi fantasies.
 

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BAYRAKTAR TB3 statement from the United Arab Emirates


The United Arab Emirates (UAE) aims to supply Bayraktar TB3 UCAV from Turkey. Faisal Al Bannai, Chairman of EDGE, the umbrella organization of the UAE defense industry sector, made critical statements on the issue.

Referring to TB2 and TB3 unmanned aerial vehicle manufacturers, Al Bannai said, “For example, we are also in talks with Baykar to integrate our missiles into some unmanned aerial vehicles and possibly eventually purchase the Bayraktar TB3 model.”
 

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BAYRAKTAR TB3 statement from the United Arab Emirates


The United Arab Emirates (UAE) aims to supply Bayraktar TB3 UCAV from Turkey. Faisal Al Bannai, Chairman of EDGE, the umbrella organization of the UAE defense industry sector, made critical statements on the issue.

Referring to TB2 and TB3 unmanned aerial vehicle manufacturers, Al Bannai said, “For example, we are also in talks with Baykar to integrate our missiles into some unmanned aerial vehicles and possibly eventually purchase the Bayraktar TB3 model.”

They showed on couple military fair that they have own TB2 like platform and even more they show it with mounted own missiles
Their product were said that is flying!

Why they want TB2/3?
 

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Faisal Al Bannai, Chairman of EDGE,
Bet he's rubbing his hands as we speak, thinking of all the reverse engineering opportunities.

They didn't straighten their :poop: at all. They're the same destabilizing wackjobs that they are.
No TB3 for UAE, simple as.
 

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Ethiopia joins the Akıncı club.

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They showed on couple military fair that they have own TB2 like platform and even more they show it with mounted own missiles
Their product were said that is flying!

Why they want TB2/3?
Have they shown it flying?
If they did, have they shown it flying consistently?
Bet he's rubbing his hands as we speak, thinking of all the reverse engineering opportunities.

They didn't straighten their :poop: at all. They're the same destabilizing wackjobs that they are.
No TB3 for UAE, simple as.
The question is whether they are permitted to re-export, or what degree of local production is aimed there. Hoping that Baykar is smart to not let them be self-sufficient to reproduce or reverse engineer some components and to not allow exports to 3rd parties.

And the big question is, does TR have sufficient power by diplomacy and finances to stop Saudis from reverse engineering, or becoming self-sufficient or outsourcing certain components from third parties and exporting these platforms to TR's markets.
 

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Bet he's rubbing his hands as we speak, thinking of all the reverse engineering opportunities.

They didn't straighten their :poop: at all. They're the same destabilizing wackjobs that they are.
No TB3 for UAE, simple as.
UAE, Saudi Arabia etc. are welcome to copy any and all Turkish drone technologies considering they are willing to pay 50+ billion dollars for it. These are not nukes or UFOs after all. They can get them from other nations. If China is willing to sell a drone factory to Saudi Arabia for 10 billion dollars I rather sell them copies of Turkish drone factories.
 

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UAE, Saudi Arabia etc. are welcome to copy any and all Turkish drone technologies considering they are willing to pay 50+ billion dollars for it. These are not nukes or UFOs after all. They can get them from other nations. If China is willing to sell a drone factory to Saudi Arabia for 10 billion dollars I rather sell them copies of Turkish drone factories.


Selcuk Bayraktar spoke about that, the drone itself is nothing, what makes TB2 TB2 is the software. He explained it a lot of time. He calls the frame kaporta bodywork. UAE hhave ther own drone program reachter, it have fly but nothing came out, KSA invested billions of dollar in Chinese drone program 6 years later they are asking Baykar drones with weapons. Technology speaks for itself.



 

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Any country with enough investment in R&D, manpower and infrastructure can develop these technologies. I mean, Even BD has its own drone program now.

We have to wait before making any definitive conclusion. Yes no doubt UAE and KSA is late in the game. But nevertheless they are making investment now. Specially UAE did a good job so far IMO.

But more importantly, you have to start somewhere, just because your product can’t take over the number one in the market at first go, doesn’t mean you should be siting duck. There is learning curve for everyone, you can’t skip it. Nor that is something to be looked down upon or ridiculed.
 
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Any country with enough investment in R&D, manpower and infrastructure can develop these technologies. I mean, Even BD has its own drone program now.

We have to wait before making any definitive conclusions. Yes no doubt UAE and KSA is late in the game. But nevertheless they are making investment now. Specially UAE did a good job so far IMO.

But more importantly, you have to start somewhere, just because your product can’t take over the number one in the market at first go, doesn’t mean you should be siting duck. There is learning curve for everyone, you can’t skip it. Nor that is something to be looked down upon or ridiculed.
Lol. All Emiratis do is buy a ready-made product, color it, and rename it as a national product. If their grades were real, they would not need to buy drones from abroad.
 

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FTUAS will replace the Army’s existing TextronTXT RQ-7 Shadow ISR drone with a new runway-independent VTOL UAV. Shadows are powered by gasoline-fueled Wankel rotaries but the Army wants their replacement to be powered by a JP-8/FT-24-fueled hybrid system capable of longer endurance and quieter operation.

LiquidPiston’s HEXE propulsion system can toggle power between all-electric, engine-only, or a combination of both - on demand - while being able to restart the engine in-air on jet fuel.

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Turkish drone producers should be interested in new engines /generators and new VTOL UAV.

Like Nissan's e-power technology.
 
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FTUAS will replace the Army’s existing TextronTXT RQ-7 Shadow ISR drone with a new runway-independent VTOL UAV. Shadows are powered by gasoline-fueled Wankel rotaries but the Army wants their replacement to be powered by a JP-8/FT-24-fueled hybrid system capable of longer endurance and quieter operation.

LiquidPiston’s HEXE propulsion system can toggle power between all-electric, engine-only, or a combination of both - on demand - while being able to restart the engine in-air on jet fuel.

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Turkish drone producers should be interested in new engines /generators and new VTOL UAV.

Like Nissan's e-power technology.
Rotary engines are powerful but fuel hungry, high on emissions and noisy. The only example in military is the Harop's British made engine.
 
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Rotary engines are powerful but fuel hungry, high on emissions and noisy. The only example
,in military is the Harop's British made engine.
İt is further than rotary engine however the main disadvantage of rotary engines is lifespan. But they solved it.
( Noisy?? İ wouldn't say it)

This engine will be US Army's future generator!!!



@Yasar could it be Also generator for electric ALTAY MBT?
 
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İt is further than rotary engine however the main disadvantage of rotary engines is lifespan. But they solved it.
( Noisy?? İ wouldn't say it)

This engine will be US Army's future generator!!!



@Yasar could it be Also generator for electric ALTAY MBT?
This engine emerged long time ago but still presented like it is new. Electrification kills many engines.
 

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