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[TheInsider]

I thought that’s the final design of mass production.

Nope. This is the final design for LRIP. Some amount of Kızılelma will be delivered next year. Subtle changes will continue, particularly those that affect stealth.

 

[neosinan]

I thought that’s the final design of mass production.

Landing gears doesn't even have coverings after they retract. So Have can this be final form?

 

[boredaf]

First, Ghost Bat looks from one piece. Second, the Air intake and fuselage looks seamless. Third, all the visible screws and rivets on Kizilelma. Fourth, the Radome is more flush mounted and less straight like be Kizilelma. And some more points I could count if you want?..

Your first 2 points are about the paint, not the drone lol and 4th is just a bent nose, how does that effect its RCS?

 

[Quasar]

-MAM-T
-LAÇİN-82
- TEBER-82 Winged Guidance Kit

 

[Sanchez]

-MAM-T
-LAÇİN-82
- TEBER-82 Winged Guidance Kit

About a ton of munitions there. 4 Mk-82s and a Mam-T to top it off.

 

[Quasar]

About a ton of munitions there. 4 Mk-82s and a Mam-T to top it off.

 

[Huelague]

Your first 2 points are about the paint, not the drone lol and 4th is just a bent nose, how does that affect its RCS?

You think the reason why Ghost Bat loooks from one piece and without screws and rievets is just the paint?

About the bent nose, does it effect the RCS?

 

[Pokemonte13]

About a ton of munitions there. 4 Mk-82s and a Mam-T to top it off.

More than a ton like 1.150 kilograms

 

[Turkic]

Landing gears doesn't even have coverings after they retract. So Have can this be final form?

They have now

 

[fushkee]

They have now

Only one of them for now.

 

[GoatsMilk]

World’s First: Autonomous Close-Formation Flight by Two Unmanned Fighter Aircraft

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2005190544784556376

To me this is what winning looks like.

 

[Oublious]

We still did not see the IWB in action, not bombs but it should fire cruisemissiles.

 

[Agha Sher]

Interesting how PT4 has not been seen for a very long time. PT5 and PT3 have been doing flights regularly.

Also, did PT5 get its stealth coating - seems more polished than before.

 

[Yasar_TR]

We still did not see the IWB in action, not bombs but it should fire cruisemissiles.

It is the most vital capability of this aircraft.
Since it is a Low Observable plane by nature, it has to make use of this trait. Carrying a couple of SOM-J missiles for stand off attack for heavier ships and up to 4 x CAKIR MrRAShM for lower weight naval targets should be within it’s munition carrying envelope.

 

[Pokemonte13]

It is the most vital capability of this aircraft.
Since it is a Low Observable plane by nature, it has to make use of this trait. Carrying a couple of SOM-J missiles for stand off attack for heavier ships and up to 4 x CAKIR MrRAShM for lower weight naval targets should be within it’s munition carrying envelope.

4 Cakir wouldn’t fit maybe 3 side by side

 

[Yasar_TR]

4 Cakir wouldn’t fit maybe 3 side by side

4 x CAKIR may be not if side by side placement is the only way.
But SOM-J has a stowed width of 480mm.
CAKIR has a diameter of 275mm .
4 x 275 = 1100 mm
2 x 480 = 960 mm.
If they can find 15-20cm more width inside the IWB then it is possible (after all as we have full authority over the plane, it is up to Baykar engineers to see if they can find the space) .
But otherwise 3 x CAKIR is achievable as you pointed out.

There is a lot of space there under its belly. I hope they have made it available to be used by the IWB s. When it has a 10000lbf engine it should have more MTOW capability too. Also wing area of KE is substantial, and should give it good amount of lift.

PS. Additionally, you don’t have to place missiles side by side. If space is available you may stack them on top of each other.
Also not to forget “sidekick” mechanism of f35-A and C versions.

 

[TheInsider]

Interesting how PT4 has not been seen for a very long time. PT5 and PT3 have been doing flights regularly.

Also, did PT5 get its stealth coating - seems more polished than before.

PT-5 has some stealth treatment, but it is still not the final product. You can see the serrated lines if you look upclose.

 

[Pokemonte13]

4 x CAKIR may be not if side by side placement is the only way.
But SOM-J has a stowed width of 480mm.
CAKIR has a diameter of 275mm .
4 x 275 = 1100 mm
2 x 480 = 960 mm.
If they can find 15-20cm more width inside the IWB then it is possible (after all as we have full authority over the plane, it is up to Baykar engineers to see if they can find the space) .
But otherwise 3 x CAKIR is achievable as you pointed out.

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There is a lot of space there under its belly. I hope they have made it available to be used by the IWB s. When it has a 10000lbf engine it should have more MTOW capability too. Also wing area of KE is substantial, and should give it good amount of lift.

PS. Additionally, you don’t have to place missiles side by side. If space is available you may stack them on top of each other.
Also not to forget “sidekick” mechanism of f35-A and C versions.

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i think that last picture is edited if you look closely the missiles have all the same shadow

 

[Yasar_TR]

i think that last picture is edited if you look closely the missiles have all the same shadow

Bro, edited or not, it is the idea and here is another one showing how it is possible.

F-35 Closer To Carrying Six AIM-120 Missiles Internally

Known as Sidekick, the upgrade will give F-35As and Cs the ability to go from four to six AIM-120 missiles in their internal bays.

www.twz.com

 

[Ahlatshah]

- Within the scope of the Bayraktar KIZILELMA Unmanned Fighter Aircraft Project; our KIZILELMA Unmanned Fighter Aircraft communicated with each other via the Azra National Data Link (MDL) and executed patrol duties in a fully autonomous manner under swarm UAV command.

-During this mission, a close autonomous formation flight between unmanned fighter aircraft was successfully achieved for the first time in the world with two KIZILELMA approaching within approximately 15 meters of each other.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2005230889597300790

I wonder if this system could be applied to our F16s, at least Özgürs. I mean KE with sensors and AZRA datalink, can interact with flying F16s or not? If it is so, that is you know...The real footsteps of MUM-T