TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[boredaf]

I have still problems with the design of Kizilelma. It doesn’t look “LO enough “ , less matured. Try to compare it with Ghost Bat.

Why? What makes Ghost Bat more stealth?

 

[Quasar]

I have still problems with the design of Kizilelma. It doesn’t look “LO enough “ , less matured. Try to compare it with Ghost Bat.

As common knowledge canard may considered as an effecting factor in LO ... surface finishing is important as well (concerning surface finishing so far we have seen prototypes and ''production prototypes'' (KIZILELMA PT-series ) not wise to expect Boeing or TAI (once assigned to manufacture center fuselages of F 35 and now KAAN) manufacruring standards from Baykar overnight.

all aspect stealth and low RSC from all directions should be an expensive masterpiece... may not worth it for an unmanned platform.

Further, our requirements and our reality or the role we envisioned for KIZILELM may defintly be different from requirements which created Ghost Bat or other projects.

we can assume that path of lower RCS from certain direction(s) has been followed and/or prioritized for KIZILELMA

AND eventhough we have never heard a single word about it, Luneburg lenses on KIZILELMA is definitly a good sign

 

[TheInsider]

Current Kızılelme isn't the final form of Kızılelma.

 

[Huelague]

Why? What makes Ghost Bat more stealth?

First, Ghost Bat looks from one piece. Second, the Air intake and fuselage looks seamless. Third, all the visible screws and rivets on Kizilelma. Fourth, the Radome is more flush mounted and less straight like be Kizilelma. And some more points I could count if you want?..

 

[Huelague]

Current Kızılelme isn't the final form of Kızılelma.

I thought that’s the final design of mass production.

 

[TheInsider]

I thought that’s the final design of mass production.

Nope. This is the final design for LRIP. Some amount of Kızılelma will be delivered next year. Subtle changes will continue, particularly those that affect stealth.

 

[neosinan]

I thought that’s the final design of mass production.

Landing gears doesn't even have coverings after they retract. So Have can this be final form?

 

[boredaf]

First, Ghost Bat looks from one piece. Second, the Air intake and fuselage looks seamless. Third, all the visible screws and rivets on Kizilelma. Fourth, the Radome is more flush mounted and less straight like be Kizilelma. And some more points I could count if you want?..

Your first 2 points are about the paint, not the drone lol and 4th is just a bent nose, how does that effect its RCS?

 

[Quasar]

-MAM-T
-LAÇİN-82
- TEBER-82 Winged Guidance Kit

 

[Sanchez]

-MAM-T
-LAÇİN-82
- TEBER-82 Winged Guidance Kit

About a ton of munitions there. 4 Mk-82s and a Mam-T to top it off.

 

[Quasar]

About a ton of munitions there. 4 Mk-82s and a Mam-T to top it off.

 

[Huelague]

Your first 2 points are about the paint, not the drone lol and 4th is just a bent nose, how does that affect its RCS?

You think the reason why Ghost Bat loooks from one piece and without screws and rievets is just the paint?

About the bent nose, does it effect the RCS?

 

[Pokemonte13]

About a ton of munitions there. 4 Mk-82s and a Mam-T to top it off.

More than a ton like 1.150 kilograms

 

[Strong AI]

World’s First: Autonomous Close-Formation Flight by Two Unmanned Fighter Aircraft

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2005190544784556376

 

[Turkic]

Landing gears doesn't even have coverings after they retract. So Have can this be final form?

They have now

 

[fushkee]

They have now

Only one of them for now.

 

[GoatsMilk]

World’s First: Autonomous Close-Formation Flight by Two Unmanned Fighter Aircraft

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2005190544784556376

To me this is what winning looks like.

 

[Oublious]

We still did not see the IWB in action, not bombs but it should fire cruisemissiles.

 

[Agha Sher]

Interesting how PT4 has not been seen for a very long time. PT5 and PT3 have been doing flights regularly.

Also, did PT5 get its stealth coating - seems more polished than before.

 

[Strong AI]

We still did not see the IWB in action, not bombs but it should fire cruisemissiles.

Actually i think ANKA 3 is more suited for that role. Which doesn't mean KE shouldn't be able to do it too. But imo KE should concentrate more on launching BVR missiles from IWB. Afaik there is an official illustration of KE launching SOM-J from IWB.

Found it (from Roketsan)