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Ukraine has flown its first combat missions with an F-16
www.telegraph.co.uk
F-16 fighter jets finally fly in Ukraine in major boost for Kyiv
The much-vaunted arrival of the warplanes will be met by significant fanfare given their potential role in Ukraine’s fight against Russia
www.telegraph.co.uk
Lithuanian Foreign Minister officially confirmed the delivery of F-16s to Ukraine.
Gary, i didn't see many ever claiming Ukraine would win?
Regardless of recent progress, it is still and probably always will be, the most embarrassing war fought by a superpower in history. It's been an absolutely pathetic battlefield display from Russia, and Putin's leadership has been an absolute joke.
Even Americas huge failures in Vietnam doesn't come close to this. Ukraine could capitulate tomorrow and it wouldn't change what this has done to Putin and his army's reputation.
- The first stage of the war will be studied for years to come as the most botched large scale invasion in history. I could give a hundred anecdotes, but the stalled miles long convoy was the craziest thing i've seen for a long time.
- Incredible loss of manpower and equipment. Russia has probably lost more men and equipment than all of the Wests post WW2 conflicts combined.
- A Wagner mutiny! A PMC breezing through the country almost entirely unopposed
- A 'superpower' releasing convicts to fight on the front line!
- An army so ill disciplined and poorly equipped and motivated, the Russians need to have a whole extra defensive lines to force their own troops to fight and not retreat / flee
- Tanks from the 1960's being deployed on the front line.....cope cages!!
- Buddying up with, and begging North Korea of all places to keep them supplied
- Soldiers putting their lives on the line and not even being paid
Dress it up how you like, but some of the things we have seen Russia resort to I would expect to see from a third world country trying to enact a war of survival. Not what i expect from a 'superpower'.
You seem to relish the suffering in this war. Speaks volumes as to your character. Its an absolute tragedy, as all wars are, and this applies to the 100.000's of Russian men who have lost their lives for 'special operation'.
Regardless of the outcome and likely victory for Russia, nothing will undo the fact that Putin has made himself and his whole country a laughing stock. Putin has just proved that is country is now a second rate military power who are only able to achieve combat success if they outnumber the opponent by a ridiculous degree. The gap between their capabilities and America's is bigger than its ever been.
The USA, fighting a country on its own border which has similar capabilities and equipment to Ukraine, would have taken o the whole country in under a week (and then began to botch the follow up!) Here's Putin 2 years in and still not even half way there!! It's actually kind of sad seeing the once mighty Russia acting like this, the Russian people deserve so much better.
Regardless of recent progress, it is still and probably always will be, the most embarrassing war fought by a superpower in history. It's been an absolutely pathetic battlefield display from Russia, and Putin's leadership has been an absolute joke.
Even Americas huge failures in Vietnam doesn't come close to this. Ukraine could capitulate tomorrow and it wouldn't change what this has done to Putin and his army's reputation.
- The first stage of the war will be studied for years to come as the most botched large scale invasion in history. I could give a hundred anecdotes, but the stalled miles long convoy was the craziest thing i've seen for a long time.
- Incredible loss of manpower and equipment. Russia has probably lost more men and equipment than all of the Wests post WW2 conflicts combined.
- A Wagner mutiny! A PMC breezing through the country almost entirely unopposed
- A 'superpower' releasing convicts to fight on the front line!
- An army so ill disciplined and poorly equipped and motivated, the Russians need to have a whole extra defensive lines to force their own troops to fight and not retreat / flee
- Tanks from the 1960's being deployed on the front line.....cope cages!!
- Buddying up with, and begging North Korea of all places to keep them supplied
- Soldiers putting their lives on the line and not even being paid
Dress it up how you like, but some of the things we have seen Russia resort to I would expect to see from a third world country trying to enact a war of survival. Not what i expect from a 'superpower'.
You seem to relish the suffering in this war. Speaks volumes as to your character. Its an absolute tragedy, as all wars are, and this applies to the 100.000's of Russian men who have lost their lives for 'special operation'.
Regardless of the outcome and likely victory for Russia, nothing will undo the fact that Putin has made himself and his whole country a laughing stock. Putin has just proved that is country is now a second rate military power who are only able to achieve combat success if they outnumber the opponent by a ridiculous degree. The gap between their capabilities and America's is bigger than its ever been.
The USA, fighting a country on its own border which has similar capabilities and equipment to Ukraine, would have taken o the whole country in under a week (and then began to botch the follow up!) Here's Putin 2 years in and still not even half way there!! It's actually kind of sad seeing the once mighty Russia acting like this, the Russian people deserve so much better.
