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Anggep kabar di atas bener, dari tahun-tahun lalu udah agak ragu F-15EX bakal dateng.
Personally, I'm not expect any US-made major procurements now, except if the political backing are strong
I strike through some words there and change it with “local company involvement”, for example Black Hawk procurement with PTDI.

You can’t deal via rekanan or third party with US for major arms procurement, so put PTDI to fill the role of rekanan or third party, but with offsets for PTDI for sure.
 

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Talking about politics

In Japan, there are unwritten rule to be politicians, it requires three-bans; Jiban, Kanban and Kaban.

Jiban means supporter base and this one is very important especially for LDP that always on top of Diet since 50s. This one needed in more rural region, where people there tend to less political, they care nothing about ideology. And to get this you don’t need to push ideological themes to them, then come the Koenkai. Koenkai in Indonesia equal to relawan, you just recruited as much Koenkai as you can and berikan kehadiranmu by Koenkai.

Kanban means your personal branding. Use this for more ideological voters, usually urban areas. You know the drill.

And Kaban means money. You need money to maintain your jiban and kanban.

And if using the word Korea of Bambang Pacul, the most Korea of all was Kakuei Tanaka. Tanaka was a tukang or kuli at his early life, but a pejabat of certain company that the building his worked with met him and turns to like him, he then became a drafter (civil engineering) without adequate educational background. Then he married daughter of successful businesswoman whom inherited her husband’s construction company which he owned after.

Even though he was resigned from Prime Minister after Lockheed bribery scandal, he still maintained a big Koenkai he had, that if politicians wanted to win, it was logical to be closed with him. This made him as powerbroker and called as Shadow Shogun in Japan. He known to had the image of gangster like and had so many things that almost (and it were) touched the unethical practices.

The power of Jiban
 

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Punya Surabaya tapi diperbantukan ke Jakarta kan bisa?
bisalah, tapi kan blum pasti di Surabaya, blum diputuskan, makanya panglimanya coba goreng sebelum final. Jakarta tuh base Koarmada RI , kalo Koarmada I di Batam .

Batam basenya sempit, bagusan di Natuna tapi masih minimalis. Surabaya udah penuh susah dikembangin , paling bagus Sorong, terpadu tapi blum sekomplit Surabaya.
 

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Tank produksi Russia terbaru udah dilengkapi sistem jammer anti drone dari pabrikan... Lama lama mirip jet tempur aja.

Sebentar lagi kayaknya bakal ada equivalent E/A-18G growler di darat. Ga menutup kemungkinan taktik manuver di darat dan taktik menggunakan tank juga bakal berubah. Kombinasi antara tank berawak, tank EW untuk menetralisir wilayah dari sengatan drone + MUM-T.

 

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Dipaksa untuk produksi onshore (di Indonesia) akhirnya di persulit impornya, karena alasan “melindungi produk dalam negeri”.

“Kalo bisa dipersulit, kenapa dipermudah?”, said old member here @trishna_amrtha. Miss him tho.

More bureaucracy, more leverage can be used by people with malicious intention
 

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Take it with grain of salt

US may will provide predominantly Kurdish NE Syrian SDF (mainly YPG-YPJ) with air defense systems. They reportedly had training with Iraqi Kurdistan CTG of PUK party and US that included air defense systems training. Don’t forget that Iran launched missiles to Irbil few months ago. Said for retaliation against Israel.

Some videos showing CTG and YAT of SDF
Video from month ago. Joint Iraqi Kurdistan CTG with US special forces, not clear what unit, most possible Delta Force (called officially as 3rd Operational Support Group now?). MCX spotted.

Sometimes CTG also augmented with SDF YAT.
When the armed wing of your political party supported by the US (CTG of Bafel Talabani)
 

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When the armed wing of your political party supported by the US (CTG of Bafel Talabani)

These people reminded me of the once mighty ANA.

And the swag generals, in particular, reminded me of Sami Sadat (and his staff). The "maverick" general of the ANA SOF (and later CiC) with all the Multicam camo and bros around him

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Of course, the ANA is history now, and Sami Sadat is currently busy commanding the fight from YouTube.


His channel has like 88 subscribers, can't believe that at the peak of his career, he commanded an army of not less than 200,000 men in arms. Such a sad fall.
 

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The legislation includes $60 billion for Kyiv; $26 billion for Israel and humanitarian aid for civilians in conflict zones, including Gaza; and $8 billion for the Indo-Pacific region. It would direct the president to seek repayment from the Ukrainian government of $10 billion in economic assistance, a concept supported by former President Donald J. Trump, who had pushed for any aid to Kyiv to be in the form of a loan. But it also would allow the president to forgive those loans starting in 2026.”

And the votes,
“The vote was 311 to 112 in favor of the aid to Ukraine, with a majority of Republicans — 112 — voting against it and one, Representative Dan Meuser of Pennsylvania, voting “present.” The House approved assistance to Israel 366 to 58; and to Taiwan 385 to 34, with Representative Rashida Tlaib, Democrat of Michigan, voting “present.” The bill to impose sanctions on Iran and require the sale of TikTok by its Chinese owner or ban the app in the United States passed 360 to 58.”

What you expect from Republicans like Dan Meuser, MTG and isolationists America First contingent. And what you expect from Democrats like Rashida Tlaib and “The Squad”.

The bill also included TikTok ban in US if Bytedance within one year cannot find US buyer and make it American.

After House to Senate with higher expectation this bill will pass there.
 

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