it's starting to look like Europe before 1914.
To some degree I agree about the 1914 style powder keg polarisation taking ship geopolitcally in Europe (and world at large).
But key thing we have now unlike 1914 is hindsight of what 1914 eventually meant and did in that first half of 20th century.
1914+ it had yet to happen....the patricians then simply did not have what the patricians today have regarding that...that has come about by sheer passage of time and consequence within it.
Greece could train Indian air force, army and navy. Being a NATO military, I am absolutely sure that Greek training methods are better than whatever India does.
IAF "training methods/system" is long subject to get into.
Suffice to say the NATO/Western elements concerning this are mostly bridged significantly via extensive training alongside (from roughly 90s onwards) US, UK, France, Israel and Singapore.
Singapore especially is of relevance as it has commited on a number of occasions full squadrons (of F-16s) for IAF appraisal and tactics development (for mutual benefit of both sides).
These play a big role in bringing out the full potential of cards we have (affected by various earlier realities and decisions) and better plan and chart the cards we will have going forward.
Greece would play minor role in this relatively speaking, though we have friendly interaction with them in the usual occasions that come for it....broadly like it is with most western armed forces (of whatever size).
I would imagine cooperation (in AF domain) is and will be organised around the respective AF's ongoing use/planned use of Mirage 2000, Rafale, AWACS and S-300 family of SAM (as it relates to specific matters in using/countering various air platforms since India will be fielding S-400 soon).
Anyway, it's another huge failure of Turkish foreign policy. We could have pursued close ties with Pakistan without alienating India. India is a huge market where we could export Turkish products. We are too ideologically driven.
I agree overall. But there are promising signs, even with seemingly more ideologically-wedded Erodgan Admin (from our perspective) and Modi Admin (from yours) compared to their precursors.
After all we have selection of Turkish shipyard (with its ToT) for Indian replenishment tanker project:
A project for Turkish shipbuilders to build five fleet support vessels for the Indian Navy will include technology transfer, local media said Tuesday,...
www.dailysabah.com
I have talked to this before, there is large scope for Turkey to even make up its trade deficit with India in short term status quo (and then expand trade in all directions in long term as economic and political policy mature).
2018 for example (pre-covid economy) goods-wise from UN database:
Turkey imported 9 times more from India (7.5 billion dollars) than it did from Pakistan and Bangladesh combined (900 million dollars).
Yet Turkey exported to India ( 1.2 billion dollars) just about what it did to Pakistan and Bangladeshi combined (1 billion dollars).
It is a rejoinder to how executive ideology bears only some influence on free market and larger society demands/pressures...both in what happens regardless of the (political) executive's policy course/influence and also what has been stopped from flowing both ways because of the executive's effects.
In fact the changes w.r.t trade of the big 3 south asian countries with Turkey since 2010 are quite striking (and seemingly runs counter to what some would expect):
It is kind of thing that would routinely get me banned in a particular (PK run) forum for even bringing up (much less expanding upon).
This (raw deficit Turkey runs in exchange rate pressure with India) is part of reason Turkish shipyard could attractively price its replenishment ship technology to India.
This (raw pressure) can be taken forward in other economic sectors Turkey has invested into a comparative advantage.
Maybe if new admin comes to power in Turkey next, it will help breakthrough on larger picture and better mutual understanding....especially as Indian economy continues to grow and get more competitive in more sectors (which we wish the same w.r.t Turkey).
Less wedded you are to ideology in geopolitics (driven by whatever 1%/patrician/elitist issue), the more options at buffet you have to choose from.
That is win win always for the "99%" "plebs" especially.
I personally repose a strong faith in India - Turkey relations (almost inevitably) growing and improving a lot long term...as we have both secular republican setup in the core... whatever ideology of patrician parties/factions reside in the arena (for whatever underlying reason/complexity/context) and whatever their ability to stir up plebeian mobs/captive votes at the present juncture.
It essentially becomes matter of how our populations increasingly align to the enlightened principles of the country-founders and persevere with them.
It is that (constitutional setup) core that sets the beating heart, mindful brain and positive soul for the highest objectives and standards of a nation....set when the dawn of new era (whatever the nightmares were before it) came its way.
It is why I much admire Ataturk ...given what the cards were he had dealt to him and situation that confronted his nation...and how he responded to it all...and what he bequeathed as the enlightenment to take forward.
Ataturk's story is unsurprisingly big part of the first few bridges that got me to read, know and learn more about Turkey itself:
https://defencehub.live/threads/combat-analysis-war-history.488/page-4#post-44234
halkweb.com.tr
