Defence Fair IDEF 2021 News & Discussion Updates

[Anmdt]

Kalkan Milli Dikey Atım Sistemi ? We know Midlas but what's this, guys? Maybe we'll use Midlas for offensive missiles and Kalkan for hisar and siper like defensive ones?

"Decoy - Dekoy"

 

[Anmdt]

Could Dearsan be nearing to do first export of a frigate after a corvette?

 

[Bogeyman]

Could Dearsan be nearing to do first export of a frigate after a corvette?

Which country?

 

[Anmdt]

Which country?

Typically Turkmenistan. They have constructed entire fleet of the Turkmen Navy.
Dearsan has constructed a shipyard from scratch in there and upgraded it to a decent level. Since we know a company will not construct a shipyard for one hull of C92, and they have shown a frigate design in IDEF, it makes sense.

 

[Fachfouch]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1429112422074355715

 

[TheInsider]

Does anyone have more details about this?

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This is STMs concept design. STM offers this design for international markets. This has nothing to do with the Turk Class FAC project.

 

[Isa Khan]

Could any other certification society might be doing it as requested by Bangladesh in case of the design being fed from AMT? For now there are no clues about AMT is working with Bangladesh.

Bureau Veritas. Even KSY's website is showing AMT's design, only the YT video clip is indicating a different design by Robert Allan.

 

[Hexciter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1429152479594356739

 

[Abdelaziz]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1429152479594356739

They have to start working on a small version for air platforms ..esp tfx and attak ll ..imo this is more important

 

[Nilgiri]

 

[Stuka]

BASE Studio update at IDEF21

BMC Altuğ 8×8 with 100% national capital, 100% national design and
100% domestically produced BASE integrated powertrain package is at #IDEF21!

> First time also mentioning 6x6 APCs
> and we learn that BMC ALTUG 8x8 is limited to a max 36 Tons GVW



New product: BASE rigid drive axle!
Come, see and collect info about it at #IDEF21




Katmerciler Eren and Hızır II with BASE driveline components are presented at #IDEF21

 

[Abdelaziz]

BASE Studio update at IDEF21

BMC Altuğ 8×8 with 100% national capital, 100% national design and
100% domestically produced BASE integrated powertrain package is at #IDEF21!

> First time also mentioning 6x6 APCs
> and we learn that BMC ALTUG 8x8 is limited to a max 36 Tons GVW

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New product: BASE rigid drive axle!
Come, see and collect info about it at #IDEF21

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Katmerciler Eren and Hızır II with BASE driveline components are presented at #IDEF21

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What is the source of these infos ?

 

[Stuka]

What is the source of these infos ?

https://basestudio.com.tr/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/BASE_Product-Portfolio-2021_WEB_v20201215.pdf

https://www.linkedin.com/company/base-studio/posts/?feedView=all

 

[Abdelaziz]

https://basestudio.com.tr/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/BASE_Product-Portfolio-2021_WEB_v20201215.pdf

https://www.linkedin.com/company/base-studio/posts/?feedView=all

I mean what is the source that bmc and catmercilar are using base staff .. i had already read base portfolio but no infos about the users

 

[Stuka]

Interesting statements from FNSS CEO Nail Kurt.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1429171881635090436

Domestic achievements of the STA Project:
Kaplan and Pars 4x4 equipped with domestic solutions

• Gun turrets
• Fire control systems
• Ceramic armors
• Drivetrain
• Suspension system
• Complex gearboxes
have been designed locally.

Which makes curious. Does FNSS have the capabilities to design and produce Drivetrains.
I assumed BASE STUDIO AS was the only one in the Country or are they cooperating ?

I think it might be TÜMOSAN:

Türk savunma sanayisinde yerli motor için geri sayım

TÜMOSAN Motor ve Traktör Sanayi AŞ, yerli motor çalışmalarının geldiği aşamanın yanı sıra taktik tekerlekli zırhlı araç Pusat'ın hibrit versiyonunu ilk kez 15'inci Uluslararası Savunma Sanayii Fuarı'nda sergiledi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

"4x4 tactical wheeled conventional and hybrid vehicle options that emerged as a result of R&D studies, diesel engines up to 530 hp, transmissions with torque converter and automatic synchromesh, ALP power groups, marine engines, aircraft arrester system rewind motor, transfer case, independent suspension system and A number of products such as the range extender system were exhibited at IDEF 2021."

 

[Stuka]

I mean what is the source that bmc and catmercilar are using base staff .. i had already read base portfolio but no infos about the users

References • BASE A.Ş. • Heavy Duty Axles and Drivetrain Components

Off-highway and special purpose vehicles with BASE drivetrain package have been successfully operating in extremely harsh conditions of Middle East.

basestudio.com.tr

 

[Abdelaziz]

Complex gearboxes

?

 

[Anmdt]

Bureau Veritas. Even KSY's website is showing AMT's design, only the YT video clip is indicating a different design by Robert Allan.

Now it complicates further, which class society Navy prefers if the design originating from abroad ? Is it sufficient if it is member of IACS or should be one among the list given by them? Is BV common or rare?

I think if it was truly from Turkey they wouldn't really seek for a re-classification and would go with Turkish Lloyd.

 

[Isa Khan]

Now it complicates further, which class society Navy prefers if the design originating from abroad ? Is it sufficient if it is member of IACS or should be one among the list given by them? Is BV common or rare?

Judging by KSY's website looks like CCS for Chinese design and BV for others.

 

[Combat-Master]

@TurDef English Interview with SAGE's Director Gürcan Okumuş