TR Naval Programs

[TheInsider]

The first welding decision for Milden and TF-2000 will be taken in the first half of 2023 probably in the next SSIK.

 

[Fighter_35]

According to savunmasanayist names of the 3 i class frigates are
F516 TCG İZMİR
F517 TCG İZMİT
F518 TCG İÇEL

They were known for ages.

 

[dBSPL]

According to savunmasanayist names of the 3 i class frigates are
F516 TCG İZMİR
F517 TCG İZMİT
F518 TCG İÇEL

In the corner of trivia today:

Izmit is actually the name of the central district of Kocaeli. Kocaeli provincial borders include the districts that are extensions of Istanbul, but it is the industrial zones and factories that make the province whole. Kocaeli actually means Izmit, but the provincial borders also include administrative units that are satellite districts of different provinces such as Istanbul.

İçel is not actually the name of a province. In 2002, a law changed the name of the province of İçel to "Mersin" and the name "İçel" has been completely out of use since then. With a 2008 law, the first tier municipalities in metropolitan cities were abolished and transformed into district municipalities. Until the Republic, there were two separate provinces in the region: İçel, centered in Silifke, and Mersin, centered in Mersin, including Tarsus. During the Atatürk period, these two provinces were merged. The name İçel originally means İç-il 'sheltered area' and dates back to the Karamanid-Ottoman wars.

In other words, except for Istanbul and Izmir, the other two names are not the official names of our provinces, but unofficial names.

In this case, I would like to start a campaign so that the rights of Iğdır and Isparta will not be defeated due to an omission. I would like to ask the authorities to revise the tender as 5 ships.

F516 TCG İZMİR
F517 TCG İZMİT
F518 TCG İÇEL
F519 TCG ISPARTA
F520 TCG IĞDIR

 

[Quasar]

In the corner of trivia today:

Izmit is actually the name of the central district of Kocaeli. Kocaeli provincial borders include the districts that are extensions of Istanbul, but it is the industrial zones and factories that make the province whole. Kocaeli actually means Izmit, but the provincial borders also include administrative units that are satellite districts of different provinces such as Istanbul.

İçel is not actually the name of a province. In 2002, a law changed the name of the province of İçel to "Mersin" and the name "İçel" has been completely out of use since then. With a 2008 law, the first tier municipalities in metropolitan cities were abolished and transformed into district municipalities. Until the Republic, there were two separate provinces in the region: İçel, centered in Silifke, and Mersin, centered in Mersin, including Tarsus. During the Atatürk period, these two provinces were merged. The name İçel originally means İç-il 'sheltered area' and dates back to the Karamanid-Ottoman wars.

In other words, except for Istanbul and Izmir, the other two names are not the official names of our provinces, but unofficial names.

In this case, I would like to start a campaign so that the rights of Iğdır and Isparta will not be defeated due to an omission. I would like to ask the authorities to revise the tender as 5 ships.

F516 TCG İZMİR
F517 TCG İZMİT
F518 TCG İÇEL
F519 TCG ISPARTA
F520 TCG IĞDIR

And for compensation Iğdır and Isparta should have an additional 16 VLS cells

 

[Afif]

Does anyone know how much the Istanbul class frigate would cost after the introduction of Hisar RF, Mildas VLS, as well as another weapon system/Electronics? Still in the same price range of 350-400 million per I-class?

It should be.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1605481546428792832

 

[Test7]

Turkish Navy AH-1W Super Cobra

 

[Anmdt]

Finally!
And of course at the moment we don’t know which yard and when, right?

Y'all don't know it yet?

It is known since weeks ago, even prior to the SSIK. There are people who knows it, yet it is not secret even after SSIK wonder why some are not able to reach to this information.

Hint, they have gone for the most unexpected yet the most logical.

 

[Anmdt]

And additional information with respect to last SSIK,
I-Class was not the only project that went through, not every single decision is shared to public. We will see some RFI / RFPs within next year, likely in first half if it is done, regarding to those projects. (Or simply watching the signature ceremony if they have decided to skip proposal stage and assigned it to a company).

 

[Radonsider]

For example? TF-2000?

And additional information with respect to last SSIK,
I-Class was not the only project that went through, not every single decision is shared to public. We will see some RFI / RFPs within next year, likely in first half if it is done, regarding to those projects. (Or simply watching the signature ceremony if they have decided to skip proposal stage and assigned it to a company).

 

[Anmdt]

TF2000 is a done deal, it needs no SSIK to commence. In fact, going on at preliminary design stage since last (2022) June.

The company that will conduct "main contractor" duties for detail design ( production design) and prototype construction (first hull) is also selected (through a rumored, however, not existing tender process). Since there is a time until preliminary design stage is concluded, it needs no SSIK at the moment.

For example? TF-2000?

 

[Khagan1923]

For example? TF-2000?

Gonna guess possibly TF-2000 „Prototype“, TTFAC, MCM and unlikely but maybe even two more Bayraktar-Class LST for which there was talk a couple years back.

MILDEN feels early.

 

[Anmdt]

Gonna guess possibly TF-2000 „Prototype“, TTFAC, MCM and unlikely but maybe even two more Bayraktar-Class LST for which there was talk a couple years back.

MILDEN feels early.

Yes, it is pretty early for MILDEN, it is yet to mature in preliminary design stage and go through tunnel tests (also maneuver tests at model scale). And MILDEN DPO is conducting these duties on their own and they have started to assign subsystem contracts for R&D.

TTFAC is a complicated matter but it is also concluded at last SSIK that how it is going to be realized.

MCM is also concluded but still waiting for conceptual design to mature by Pendik Shipyard DPO. It is unclear whether they will go with "here is our concept make it real" and then RFP, or "show us your solution based on these requirements" with an RFI then RFP. It is discussed at SSIK with no conclusion since the requirements are not finalized.

LST, is no-go for next 2 years, at least.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

And additional information with respect to last SSIK,
I-Class was not the only project that went through, not every single decision is shared to public. We will see some RFI / RFPs within next year, likely in first half if it is done, regarding to those projects. (Or simply watching the signature ceremony if they have decided to skip proposal stage and assigned it to a company).

We just want to know if 3 other Istanbul frigates have start to be build or not?
I dont got a clear answer yet , only words that dont understand ....

 

[Anmdt]

We just want to know if 3 other Istanbul frigates have start to be build or not?
I dont got a clear answer yet , only words that dont understand ....

Told you, it is already awarded. All three hull will be constructed simultaneously, however a slight phase shift (4-7 months) is expected to allow system integration to be carried out sequentially.

 

[Radonsider]

TF2000 is a done deal, it needs no SSIK to commence. In fact, going on at preliminary design stage since last (2022) June.

The company that will conduct "main contractor" duties for detail design ( production design) and prototype construction (first hull) is also selected (through a rumored, however, not existing tender process). Since there is a time until preliminary design stage is concluded, it needs no SSIK at the moment.

But why is it still in designing phase? What kind changes happened to the mod we have seen at fairs etc?


it is really mind boggling for me

 

[Anmdt]

But why is it still in designing phase? What kind changes happened to the mod we have seen at fairs etc?


it is really mind boggling for me

Preliminary design stage is continuation of conceptual design stage, where in the latter only general decision is made, design is made coarsely and in the prior the detailing took up to a certain degree to check applicability.

The changes will be invisible to eye, and i don't think scaled models will vary much in the following fairs.

 

[Anmdt]

Preliminary design stage is continuation of conceptual design stage, where in the latter only general decision is made, design is made coarsely and in the prior the detailing took up to a certain degree to check applicability.

The changes will be invisible to eye, and i don't think scaled models will vary much in the following fairs.

Give or take, roughly these stages are shown in the following image
Initial design + Basic design is "preliminary design"
some portion of detail design is "contract design, functional design" where true cost estimates can be made
some portion of detail design + manufacturing is "detail design" or also known as "production design"

 

[Brave Janissary]

We can make a sub, design a sub etc...
Without Atılay Class Our most older subs can be operational +12 year easily.

There is a any possibilty about vls and aip module upgrade for Preveze or Gür Class ?

Yes Greeks seek a high costs and problems in Okeanos program but we can class him more effectivelly.

 

[TheInsider]

Mir USV is expected to enter the inventory of the Navy in September 2023.