Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Woland]

House Foreign Affairs Chairman McCaul stated that Ukraine is about to get permission to strike back:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1833491171428987257

Some context. Four days ago it was confirmed that Iran provided Russia with ballistic missiles. Meanwhile McCaul reported that Blinken told him three days ago that Ukraine will receive permission to use ATACMS missiles on Russian bases. I think it is very likely this is the reason permission is finally being granted.

And in other news, Biden has sent Congress the long-awaited Ukraine strategy report, as mandated by the April Supplemental.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-administration-sends-congress-long-awaited-ukraine-strategy-report-sources-2024-09-09/

 

[Spitfire9]

Some context. Four days ago it was confirmed that Iran provided Russia with ballistic missiles. Meanwhile McCaul reported that Blinken told him three days ago that Ukraine will receive permission to use ATACMS missiles on Russian bases. I think it is very likely this is the reason permission is finally being granted.

I don't speak Pharsi but if I did I might send the Iranian leader a message of thanks. A few Iranian ballistic missiles cannot damage Ukraine as much as the US has done by preventing weapons being used to strike inside Russia at the origin of attacks against Ukraine.

 

[TheInsider]

House Foreign Affairs Chairman McCaul stated that Ukraine is about to get permission to strike back:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1833491171428987257

Some context. Four days ago it was confirmed that Iran provided Russia with ballistic missiles. Meanwhile McCaul reported that Blinken told him three days ago that Ukraine will receive permission to use ATACMS missiles on Russian bases. I think it is very likely this is the reason permission is finally being granted.

And in other news, Biden has sent Congress the long-awaited Ukraine strategy report, as mandated by the April Supplemental.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-administration-sends-congress-long-awaited-ukraine-strategy-report-sources-2024-09-09/

That is a good move in the right direction. The first targets should be missile, UAV, gliding bomb and artillery shell production facilities and any facility providing required materials to those facilities. Russian firepower superiority has to be reduced at all costs.

 

[Relic]

The UK announced a new $781 million usd package for Ukraine that consists of both defense articles and macro financial funding. The contents of the package are as follows.

- 650 Martlet air defense missiles
- Thousands of 155mm artillery shells
- Additional undisclosed armored vehicles
- $315 million usd in government funding
- $100 million usd in humanitarian funding
- $26 million usd in energy grid funding

UK announces new $781 million aid package for Ukraine

The U.K. announced a new 600-million-pound ($781 million) aid package for Ukraine on Sept. 11, as U.K. Foreign Secretary David Lammy visited Kyiv together with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

kyivindependent.com

 

[Woland]

US announced $700m in aid:

The latest American aid package includes $325 million in energy support to help repair and restore Ukraine’s power generation facilities, provide emergency backup power for critical services and strengthen the physical security of energy infrastructure.

Some $290 million will fund food, water, shelter, health care and education programs for Ukrainians in need in the country and refugees outside the country.

The remaining $102 million will be used for mine-removal work.

 

[Kartal1]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834272405797167612

 

[Spitfire9]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834272405797167612

What happens next? An apology saying it was a mistake? I imagine it was.

 

[Lool]

I must admit, the last 10-30 seconds were funny

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834286107531641050

 

[Lool]

That is a good move in the right direction. The first targets should be missile, UAV, gliding bomb and artillery shell production facilities and any facility providing required materials to those facilities. Russian firepower superiority has to be reduced at all costs.

Wont do shit
Western media already reported that all critical military infrastructure within Russia have been moved away from the range of Stormshadow missiles and Russia has reportedly finished upgrading their FABs to strike with a heavier tonnage and longer distances

This decision came too late for Ukraine

Finally, the war is in jeopardy with reports that Ukraine just doesnt have that many men to continue the war. Ever since the Kursk operation/desperation and I realised that Ukraine's govt knew it was fqed and will not win this war but will eventually lose the most richest area in Ukraine to Russia

All hail the clown, Zelensky

 

[FiReFTW]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834263958443995410

The west really likes to play with fire huh, escalation after escalation until the point where Russia will have no choice and we will start getting hit by nuclear weapons, damn id*ots.

 

[Kartal1]

What happens next? An apology saying it was a mistake? I imagine it was.

I don't think it was a mistake. They showed their determination, but regardless of that, nothing will change. I don't even believe an apology will come, but we may see some diplomatic traffic in the next coming hours or days.

 

[Samba]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834272405797167612

Is this all a KH22 can do? I barely see damage.

 

[Spitfire9]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834263958443995410

The west really likes to play with fire huh, escalation after escalation until the point where Russia will have no choice and we will start getting hit by nuclear weapons, damn id*ots.

The West was frightened when Russia invaded Ukraine and that fear indirectly allowed Putin to set the rules of engagement in his war of aggression. The legendary Red army was expected to overwhelm Ukraine in a matter of days or weeks. It transpired that the strength of the Red army, while legendary, was just that - legendary, not real.

The West later started breaking Putin's rules of engagement with no real reaction. Red line after red line has been crossed without Russia resorting to the nuclear option, having hinted it would.

No reason to toe Putin's line. Every country under attack has the right to strike the country attacking it. Putin may be able to intimidate the US administration but that does not make him able to change the rules of war.

 

[Woland]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834263958443995410

The west really likes to play with fire huh, escalation after escalation until the point where Russia will have no choice and we will start getting hit by nuclear weapons, damn id*ots.

Every red line was already crossed when Ukraine invaded Russia proper in Kursk. Yet nuclear weapons were not used.

 

[Iskander]

What happens next? An apology saying it was a mistake? I imagine it was.

Intentionally striking and then apologizing is the Russian way.
And after the apology, laugh mockingly...

 

[FiReFTW]

The West was frightened when Russia invaded Ukraine and that fear indirectly allowed Putin to set the rules of engagement in his war of aggression. The legendary Red army was expected to overwhelm Ukraine in a matter of days or weeks. It transpired that the strength of the Red army, while legendary, was just that - legendary, not real.

The West later started breaking Putin's rules of engagement with no real reaction. Red line after red line has been crossed without Russia resorting to the nuclear option, having hinted it would.

No reason to toe Putin's line. Every country under attack has the right to strike the country attacking it. Putin may be able to intimidate the US administration but that does not make him able to change the rules of war.

Because they are not reckless and St*pid but surely you realize you can't keep escalating forever right? There is a point where someone will have had enough, when backed into a corner with no exit.

Or do you think this can go on forever? The escalation? You think if NATO invaded Russia and would be at the doorsteps of Moscow they would still not use nukes? It's an exaggeration but hopefully you get my point.

 

[Spitfire9]

Because they are not reckless and St*pid but surely you realize you can't keep escalating forever right? There is a point where someone will have had enough, when backed into a corner with no exit.

Or do you think this can go on forever? The escalation? You think if NATO invaded Russia and would be at the doorsteps of Moscow they would still not use nukes? It's an exaggeration but hopefully you get my point.

What has happened? Russia decided to attack Ukraine, expecting Ukraine to fold in a few days by the Red army taking Kiev. Unexpectedly that did not happen. A large number of countries then decided to support Ukraine by supplying it with weapons. Many countries that supplied weapons to Ukraine forbade Ukraine to use them to strike at targets in Russia, such as military bases used to strike Ukraine.

Tell me, are North Korea and Iran supplying weapons to Russia with the proviso that they must not be used to strike at military bases within Ukraine? I don't think so.

What Ukraine is asking is for permission to use the weapons it has to undermine Russia's ability to attack it by hitting at the source of those attacks inside Russia. In my view it is logical and legal for a country under attack to try to reduce the incidence of attacks it suffers by striking at their source.

Escalation: the ultimate escalation is to replace a state of peace with a state of war, as Russia has done.

 

[Lool]

That is why I dont trust either Ukrainian or Russian data

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834515264106365117

 

[Anastasius]

Because they are not reckless and St*pid but surely you realize you can't keep escalating forever right? There is a point where someone will have had enough, when backed into a corner with no exit.

Or do you think this can go on forever? The escalation? You think if NATO invaded Russia and would be at the doorsteps of Moscow they would still not use nukes? It's an exaggeration but hopefully you get my point.

The moment Russia uses nuclear weapons, it gets royally raped with 3 times as many nuclear weapons in return. And the NATO has systems in place to intercept nuclear missiles with some degree of reliability. Russia has absolutely no way to stop any US or allied nukes from hitting any target in Russia that they like.

 

[Spitfire9]

Because they are not reckless and St*pid but surely you realize you can't keep escalating forever right? There is a point where someone will have had enough, when backed into a corner with no exit.

Or do you think this can go on forever?

US, EU, Canada, Norway, UK can afford to go on for ever. Russia cannot. But will Ukraine's supporters change their mind and force Ukraine to sue for peace?