What has that to do with Hurjet? Those engines are interesting for Kizilelma and ANKA 3/4We are waiting for TF-6000 and TF-10000 engines.
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What has that to do with Hurjet? Those engines are interesting for Kizilelma and ANKA 3/4We are waiting for TF-6000 and TF-10000 engines.
Looking at how rapidly Hürjet is maturing a twin engine version will probably mature just as fast. Kaan is twin engine, pilots should be trained on a twin engine aircraft.TF-10000 is too small for Hürjet, F404 gives nearly 40% more dry and 80% more wet thrust.
If the B-0 delivery date to AF is being updated from 2025 to 2027, can we safely say it's maturing at the indicated rate?Looking at how rapidly Hürjet is maturing a twin engine version will probably mature just as fast. Kaan is twin engine, pilots should be trained on a twin engine aircraft.
We don't know the actual reason. It is probably because of supply chain issues rather than the maturing.If the B-0 delivery date to AF is being updated from 2025 to 2027, can we safely say it's maturing at the indicated rate?
+1It is probably because of supply chain issues rather than the maturing.
Tolga Özbek instead claims first delivery date is not 2027 but 2026.Hürjet program update:
"Delivery of 4 Block-0 aircraft in 2027 and 12 Block-1 aircraft with the same configuration in 2028-2029"
Original announced calendar was 4 Block-0 aircraft for air force testing in by the end of 2025 and 12 Block-1s until end of 2028. 2 year delay, which will inevitably delay the type's acceptance by the air force.
HÜRJET teslimatında hedef 2027
"2027 yılında 4 adet Blok-0 ve 2028-2029 yıllarında aynı konfigürasyona sahip 12 adet Blok-1 uçaklarının teslimatı öngörülmekte."www.defenceturk.net
To sum up: 2025 delivery date remains unchanged and as planned, 2025 delivery will be made in 2026, not 2027.We hope to begin our deliveries to the Turkish Air Force within 2026. That is our current plan. We don't see any issues there. Even if some minor challenges arise, we are resolving them. There is no change in the delivery target for 2026.
Is this big gap in its field with us in this room right now? Or is he deliberately not mentioning the elephant in the room?Demiroğlu continued:
"It received a great deal of interest in Egypt. We are in discussions with Egypt. It went to Spain in Europe, and we are in talks with them as well. We are very hopeful. HÜRJET will truly fill a significant gap in its field. Its design as both a supersonic aircraft and a light attack and training aircraft allows for a wide range of configurations and uses."
I agree with you there, even beyond T-50 there are other options in the market. TAI's statements when it comes to Hürjet have been more like a salesman trying to hawk their product no matter what they might have to say. I was hoping that trend would die out after Kotil left but apparently not.Is this big gap in its field with us in this room right now? Or is he deliberately not mentioning the elephant in the room?
There‘s no gap in this field for 20 years.
T-50 = supersonic trainer jet
TA-50 = lead-in fighter trainer
FA-50 Block I = light combat aircraft
FA-50 Block II = light multi-role fighter
No problems with TAI entering with Hürjet the export market but can‘t take such misleading statements serious.
Obviously not all users want to by Korean. That elephant in the room need to chill and chose a corner of the room to sit rather than spreading all over the place.Is this big gap in its field with us in this room right now? Or is he deliberately not mentioning the elephant in the room?
There‘s no gap in this field for 20 years.
T-50 = supersonic trainer jet
TA-50 = lead-in fighter trainer
FA-50 Block I = light combat aircraft
FA-50 Block II = light multi-role fighter
No problems with TAI entering with Hürjet the export market but can‘t take such misleading statements serious.
Oh, I‘m chill. It‘s not the point of buying Korean, US, Chinese, Russian, Italian or Turkish trainer jets. He, as a CEO of an internationally operating aerospace company, states an imagined gap in a field where there is none. It‘s about credibility in his field of work.Obviously not all users want to by Korean. That elephant in the room need to chill and chose a corner of the room to sit rather than spreading all over the place.
Whom do you mean?He, as a CEO
You spread all you want but KAI can have a hard time. You are not the elephant, are you.Oh, I‘m chill. It‘s not the point of buying Korean, US, Chinese, Russian, Italian or Turkish trainer jets. He, as a CEO of an internationally operating aerospace company, states an imagined gap in a field where there is none. It‘s about credibility in his field of work.
Btw, I can spread whereever I want here. U dunno own this place, do yah?
Mr. Demiroglu from the interview.Whom do you mean?
You‘re missing the whole point of the argument and deflecting to points that are irrelevant.You spread all you want but KAI can have a hard time. You are not the elephant, are you.
It is you who missing the point, there is a big market that KAI have not been able to capture which may be addressed by TAI.You‘re missing the whole point of the argument and deflecting to points that are irrelevant.
That‘s not what he meant. He wasn‘t talking about potential customer markets that competitors might have missed - he talks about a product gap in the field of advanced supersonic trainer jet + LCA/light fighter design which is obviously false.It is you who missing the point, there is a big market that KAI have not been able to capture which may be addressed by TAI.