TR Defence Exports & Updates

[hugh]

Your numbers are good but we also need to take into consideration the fact that this will be a large sale and they’re planning buyer to manufacture under license.
These factors surely must be taken into account while estimating for such a large deal.

I don't think we can make any informed guess without knowing the extent of the ToT and the rate of local production.

 

[Turkic]

I don't think we can make any informed guess without knowing the extent of the ToT and the rate of local production.

I know. I was just curious about total cost. Not what we will get.

 

[Lordimperator]

Roketsan produces a 122mm and 230mm rocket munition that can be fired from drones like Akinci and probably TB3.
Trg122 missile (122mm diameter) has a weight of 76kg and when fired from air should have a range of about 70-80km.
There is also a trg230 (230mm diameter) with a weight of 215kg and if fired from air can hit targets 150 km away with precision. As TB3s has a maximum capacity of 280kg, it may be just about capable to carry one Trg230. But should easily accommodate the trg122 missiles.
KHAN missile is a land launched twin canister solid fuelled rocket system like the above missiles. It is 600mm in diameter, 450kg explosive payload with a range of just under 300km. It can hit targets with pin point accuracy.


Atmaca is a 890 kg weight anti ship missile powered by a solid fuel booster and a locally manufactured turbojet engine that can easily sink frigates with it’s 250kg warhead. It has a range in excess of 250km. It can hit all surface platforms with precision. It can be fired from land or sea platforms.

theoretically, how many Atmaca missiles could be bought under 330 million?

 

[Sanchez]

Portugal planning to upgrade their 3 Vasco da Gama Class Meko 200 frigates, including major modifications. Tender is open to all NATO countries. Let's see if there'll be a Turkish entry like the Oruçreis MLU package.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1889678942979653977

 

[Fuzuli NL]

That is the deduction of a Defenceturk X message writer. Yet according to Avoiotionist‘s Polish writer there were 6 UAVs in a set in the TB2s Poland received. .
Are we to believe what a message says or an actual sale?

And there is also Baykar’s site that says each set is composed of 6/UAVs.

https://baykartech.com/en/press/the-first-sets-of-bayraktar-drones-were-delivered-to-the-mirosawiec-base/

Final Delivery of Polish Bayraktar TB2 Drones Completed

Poland now operates all of its new TB2 drones previously ordered from Turkey. Polish MOD studying the possibility of establishing a new branch of the

theaviationist.com

It's true that the TB2s are six a set but given the size difference I would think that TB3 is four and Akinci three a set.

 

[Sanchez]

Per Infodefensa, a delegation from Colombian Air Force recently visited Baykar to learn about TB3. Colombia deals with narco guerillas for decades and they already operate some number of Hermes 450 and 900. To my knowledge however those drones are not armed and they want to have the option open. Their falling out with Israel last year probably also stopped any modernization work. More interestingly, Colombia is already a partner with Airbus and placed a 300 million dollar order last year to buy 16 SIRTAPs beginning from 2027. That's the same drone that Spanish recently put on the Juan Carlos LHD.

La Fuerza Aeroespacial Colombiana viaja a Turquía para estudiar las capacidades operacionales del uav TB3

La fuerza pretende renovar sus capacidades sustituyendo a mediano plazo a sus Elbit Systems Hermes 900 y 450, a pesar de los recientemente ofrecidos procesos de actualización, mode ...

www.infodefensa.com

 

[IC3M@N FX]

This would be a big step for Turkey to enter the South American market TB2 drones + munitions would be the ideal system against drug cartels and organized crime in South America. These people have at most automatic weapons and bazookas, grenades and various explosives. I doubt that they have broad-based, state-of-the-art MANPADS like sponsored terrorist organizations, even though money can buy anything these days.

 

[Tabmachine]

This is the news I like to hear!

https://theaviationist.com/2025/02/17/baykar-indonesia-drone-factory-deal/

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Morocco is expanding its defense cooperation with Turkey in order to modernize its army. During the Moroccan delegation’s meetings with ASELSAN, the establishment of joint research centers and the production of some critical defense systems in Morocco were also on the agenda.

The cooperation is planned to focus on electronic systems, smart solutions, and unmanned aerial platforms.

It was also reported that the two sides held talks on the purchase of a new combat management system aimed at increasing the Moroccan kingdom's maritime defense capabilities.


Source:

Fas, Türkiye ile silah işbirliğini derinleştiriyor

Fas, ordusunu modernize etmek amacıyla Türkiye ile savunma işbirliğini genişletiyor. Fas heyetinin ASELSAN ile gerçekleştirilen görüşmelerde, ortak araştırma merkezleri kurulması ve bazı kritik savunma sistemlerinin Fas’ta üretilmesi konusu da gündeme geldi.

www.karar.com

Abdellatif Loudiyi, Minister Delegate in charge of the National Defense Administration with a gift from the CEOs of Roketsan&Baykar mina at #IDEX2025.

 

[Sanchez]

Per TAI GM, UAE is interested in Kaan, Hürkuş, a joint development of a different model based on Anka-III and T129 Atak.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891757607615856949

Fine for Hürkuş and T129, but I don't know how I feel about UAE joining Kaan or building a different UAV for Emirati needs where they would have full control over the platform.

 

[Sanchez]

Estonian Arma 8x8 and NMS 4x4s during the independence day parade.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894326694955127047

 

[TR_123456]

Fine for Hürkuş and T129, but I don't know how I feel about UAE joining Kaan or building a different UAV for Emirati needs where they would have full control over the platform.

Agreed,we cant trust the UAE.
At every single opportunity the UAE works against us,i trust the Greeks more then the UAE.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Agreed,we cant trust the UAE.
At every single opportunity the UAE works against us,i trust the Greeks more then the UAE.

I concur.

 

[Altay_TR]

Estonian Arma 8x8 and NMS 4x4s during the independence day parade.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1894326694955127047

More pics and video:

 

[AzeriTank]

Turns out first Estonian Arma 6x6s were delivered last month.

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And this is probably Nurol NMS.

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interestingly nobody saw that this is Arma 2 6x6 vehicle, probably up to 30 ton, the most protected 6x6. look at the lights and engine exhaust place, similar with Arma 2

 

[begturan]

interestingly nobody saw that this is Arma 2 6x6 vehicle, probably up to 30 ton, the most protected 6x6. look at the lights and engine exhaust place, similar with Arma 2

Actually Otokar's designs are generally magnificent, I think the only problem is that they are lagging behind in using the domestic subsystem, maybe this problem will be solved in 5/10 years and we can see Arma2s in our army's inventory.

 

[Tornadoss]

Actually Otokar's designs are generally magnificent, I think the only problem is that they are lagging behind in using the domestic subsystem, maybe this problem will be solved in 5/10 years and we can see Arma2s in our army's inventory.

AFAIK with the ARMA2 it was quite high

OTOKAR Introduced the 8X8 ARMA II | TURDEF

OTOKAR introduced its first 8x8 military vehicle ARMA II, with a home-grown engine, after a 6,000-kilometre road test: the Ecotorq engine.

www.turdef.com

 

[Huelague]

FNSS will modernized UAE Russian vehicles.

 

[Iskander]

FNSS will modernized UAE Russian vehicles.

Thank you. I searched and found an article on the same topic on Bulgarian.com. Lots of information and also interesting.

UAE ditches Russia, taps Turkey to revamp Soviet-era BMP-3s

The agreement, struck between FNSS and the UAE’s land forces, promises to breathe new life into a fleet of 615 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles.

bulgarianmilitary.com

 

[what]

Looks like FNSS has struck luck ever since they got rid of their British co-owners.

619 vehicles, that has to be at least 2-3m per piece - huge contract.