Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

[Iskander]

We're witnessing the end of a superpower before our very eyes. They will still be strong no doubt, but that aura they had decades back is gone almost completely.

Also not sure if Trump came to stop the rot or have US destroyed from within.

The United States intends to punish those NATO countries that did not support its joint military operation with Israel against Iran. This primarily concerns Spain, which refused to provide its airfields to the US Air Force.
As a punishment, Washington is considering suspending Spain's membership in NATO.

Notably, a few days ago, Netanyahu, in response to Spain's criticism of Israeli military actions in Gaza, announced his intention to punish Spanish Prime Minister Sánchez.

Besides Spain, it appears the UK will also be punished for its reluctance to support the US and Israel in the war against Iran. Possible options include a reconsideration of the US position on the Falkland Islands.

(For some reason, this all reminds me of Notes from a Madhouse.)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.euronews.com/2026/04/24/pentagon-email-floats-punishing-nato-allies-over-iran-war-suspending-spain&ved=2ahUKEwjM8ZTXrYaUAxUE_rsIHb9XPAYQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2kM9dYfuh_p93xkmzMtoVc

 

[Spitfire9]

The United States intends to punish those NATO countries that did not support its joint military operation with Israel against Iran. This primarily concerns Spain, which refused to provide its airfields to the US Air Force.
As a punishment, Washington is considering suspending Spain's membership in NATO.

Notably, a few days ago, Netanyahu, in response to Spain's criticism of Israeli military actions in Gaza, announced his intention to punish Spanish Prime Minister Sánchez.

Besides Spain, it appears the UK will also be punished for its reluctance to support the US and Israel in the war against Iran. Possible options include a reconsideration of the US position on the Falkland Islands.

(For some reason, this all reminds me of Notes from a Madhouse.)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...YQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2kM9dYfuh_p93xkmzMtoVc

Trump seems to take the view that NATO forces are there to do what US forces do - carry out the wishes of the US C-in-C ie execute US foreign policy.

Attacking Iran may be US policy (because the US is following Israeli policy) but US foreign policy is not neccessarily the same as that of other countries in NATO.

Time for the Europeans to start thinking of switching to a defence alliance that does not include the US as a member, I think. Of course such an alliance will be much weaker than NATO but an alliance in which member countries are not permitted to pursue their own foreign policy is a pretty useless alliance to its members.

 

[TR_123456]

Washington is considering suspending Spain's membership in NATO.

That is not possible.

 

[Iskander]

That is not possible.

You're simply underestimating

1. the enormity of Netanyahu's plan;
2. the depth of Hegseth's idiocy;
3. Trump's incomprehensible wisdom.

 

[TR_123456]

You're simply underestimating

1. the enormity of Netanyahu's plan;
2. the depth of Hegseth's idiocy;
3. Trump's incomprehensible wisdom.

The US doesnt have the power to suspend any membership of NATO,nobody has.
You can only leave NATO by your own will.
No country can be kicked out of NATO.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Even if it were possible what would be the consequences for Spain or Nato?
Spain would just continue as usual as they are the least threatened Country.
The US would just continue to alienate friends and Allies destroying 80 Years of foreign policy.

 

[Iskander]

The US doesnt have the power to suspend any membership of NATO,nobody has.
You can only leave NATO by your own will.
No country can be kicked out of NATO.

The U.S. doesn't have the right to do many things.

For example, kidnapping the president of a sovereign country from his bed in the middle of the night.
However...

 

[TR_123456]

The U.S. doesn't have the right to do many things.

For example, kidnapping the president of a sovereign country from his bed in the middle of the night.
However...

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In this case There is no option to do anything.

 

[Iskander]

In this case There is no option to do anything.

Someone from Trump's inner circle could tell him about the strategic value of Gibraltar
Or about the beauty of the Canary Islands

 

[Spitfire9]

Someone from Trump's inner circle could tell him about the strategic value of Gibraltar

I hope that won't happen. The strait of Gibraltar is only 9 miles wide. I don't want the US navy blockading the strait, paralysing Europe-Asia trade until the king of Spain goes to Washington to kiss the king of America's feet.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

That is not possible.

In today's world it is, one way or another.

What truly matters is the size of your nations gun, everything else is noise and can be changed.

 

[contricusc]

Someone from Trump's inner circle could tell him about the strategic value of Gibraltar
Or about the beauty of the Canary Islands

While it may sound far fatched now, I think that if Europe doesn’t gets its act together when it comes to defense, and if Trump’s regime manages to remain in power in the US, things could get ugly in the Atlantic.

I think Trumpists could set their eyes on European islands in the Atlantic. They already want Greenland, so why wouldn’t they want Iceland, Canary Islands, the Azores, Falkland, Cabo Verde, etc.

They could take everything in the name of “national security”.

It’s crazy to see so many European leaders still thinking the US is their ally. At this point, the US is a bigger threat to Europe than Russia, because Russia is going to be defeated soon, but the US is extremely powerful.

 

[contricusc]

Time for the Europeans to start thinking of switching to a defence alliance that does not include the US as a member, I think. Of course such an alliance will be much weaker than NATO but an alliance in which member countries are not permitted to pursue their own foreign policy is a pretty useless alliance to its members.

NATO is already dead. As long as the US is inside, the credibility is zero. When one of the biggest threats to NATO members is a NATO member itself, what does it say about the alliance?

Europe needs to do its own NATO, to defend against the US. This is where future threats will come from.

 

[Huelague]

I hope that won't happen. The strait of Gibraltar is only 9 miles wide. I don't want the US navy blockading the strait, paralysing Europe-Asia trade until the king of Spain goes to Washington to kiss the king of America's feet.

Dont forget the Suez chanal. If strait of Gibraltar is closed, US would lost mediterannean.

 

[Spitfire9]

IMF has raised its forecast for 2026 GDP growth in Russia. To me that signals an elevated average price for crude in 2026. The IMF sees a conclusion to the Iran crisis soon as unlikely?

IMF Raises Russia GDP Forecast to 1.1% in 2026

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) on Tuesday raised its 2026 GDP growth forecast for Russia to 1.1% from January's estimate of 0.8%, due to higher oil and other commodity prices resulting from the Middle East crisis. The new 1.1% growth forecast for 2026 is slightly higher than the 1%...

tradingeconomics.com

 

[4MikeEcho]

Even if it were possible what would be the consequences for Spain or Nato?
Spain would just continue as usual as they are the least threatened Country.
The US would just continue to alienate friends and Allies destroying 80 Years of foreign policy.

It also happens to be one of the countries that the US has a trade surplus with.

Italy also declined landing rights for US aircraft at Sigonella.

US can treat them as if they are not in NATO, and I agree for sake of one country (Israel), it will alienate all the other countries it actually does trade with, vs. subsidize its existence.

 

[4MikeEcho]

In today's world it is, one way or another.

What truly matters is the size of your nations gun, everything else is noise and can be changed.

We are seeing the size of the gun has its limitations. GCC countries got no protection from having the 'gun' on their soil.

And US short term use of overwhelming force for a guaranteed outcome has also made the limitations of the national gun more obvious

 

[Passenger]

IMF has raised its forecast for 2026 GDP growth in Russia. To me that signals an elevated average price for crude in 2026. The IMF sees a conclusion to the Iran crisis soon as unlikely?

IMF Raises Russia GDP Forecast to 1.1% in 2026

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) on Tuesday raised its 2026 GDP growth forecast for Russia to 1.1% from January's estimate of 0.8%, due to higher oil and other commodity prices resulting from the Middle East crisis. The new 1.1% growth forecast for 2026 is slightly higher than the 1%...

tradingeconomics.com

The damage of oil production facilities need years to get repaired.
Japan/Korea factories are reducing production capacity.
India is buying fertilizers at high prices.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

We are seeing the size of the gun has its limitations. GCC countries got no protection from having the 'gun' on their soil.

And US short term use of overwhelming force for a guaranteed outcome has also made the limitations of the national gun more obvious

I meant it more in a defensive way, like "the bigger your gun" the lower the probability of you getting invaded. I wasn't looking from the US perspective.

Edit:
Having your own massive weapon production base is ofc a must, buying weapons doesn't make a Country strong, not at all.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2048318654731751793

A large fire was reported overnight at Royal Air Force Fairford Base in England, a military base that houses a significant number of US Air Force bomber aircraft deployed for attacks against Iran.

The fire reportedly rendered the building used by US troops (the command post) completely unusable.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2048070206392606900

Military landing from Argentina to Britain!

Argentine military sources claim that the armed forces may be preparing a large-scale operation to reclaim the Malvinas/Falkland Islands from the United Kingdom.

These sources also suggest coordination with the US as part of a stance against Europe.

Furthermore, it is alleged that the US prevented the UK from blocking Argentina's acquisition of multi-role F-16A/BM fighter jets and also supported Argentina's plans regarding the future of the Falkland Islands.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2048333236900622430

Tensions between Britain and the US are so high that the British are burning down a building used by US military personnel to drive the US out of bases where US bomber planes are stationed.

Meanwhile, the US is fanning the flames of the Argentina-Britain conflict. A police headquarters is bombed in Ireland.


@Zafer @Mis_TR_Like @TR_123456 @dBSPL @Nilgiri @Yasar_TR

The US will no longer be able to launch bomber aircraft from the UK and Diego Garcia to strike Iran.