Harsh truth, sad that lesson is not learnt well, iran is the main cause of fitna around the muslim world. Their diaspora is main islamofobia tool in hands of west to. They are full of condratictions.
What is this sunni shia sectarian fitna literature you three suddenly started speaking of?
1) We are talking about modern states. They may use religion to pursue their interests but states(must) all act rational for their own interests.
2) If such an understanding was correct, who stands for ''islamic unity''exactly? Turkey, who recognised Israel first and helped destabilisation of Iraq and Syria? Saudi Arabia who is basically a puppet of zionism? Even Pakistan, who smiles upon China who doesnt have the nicest way of dealing with Uyghurs?
With this mindset Turkey is destined to lose. We dont care about religion. If one day it somehow suits our interests we will bomb holy places of Jerusalem. Thats that. States must be rational and pragmatist. Simple as that.
3) Still if anything Iran is still the one who worked against zionism the most. Isnt zionism the number one enemy of islam? Who else but Iran was dealing with Israel? Erdogan himself got a medal from them and called himself BOP co-leader.
4) Even if Iran had the most toxic of ideologies, which they dont, are they strong enough to become a nuisance for Turkey? Are you guys simply this naive? What evil can Iran possibly do to us? Is freaking Hizbullah going to pose a threat to us? How many militants does it have 10.000? 20.000? Iran is trying to fill the power gap US left by its Shia proxies thats that.
5) They are a desperate, recently humiliated state who cant do anything about their top general, top scientist getting droned. They are total losers. They cannot possibly pose a threat to us. They are completely isolated and they desperately seek help. Had Turkey gives its hand they would kiss it before holding it.
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a country that called Armenia its "brother" while Azerbaijan was retaken its rightfull land back from fascists that killed tens of thousands of Turks, that threatened Azerbaijan with war until Turkey stepped in between,
Azerbaijan was cheering with Israel by giving it fossil energy and letting them test Iran with their drones from Azerbaijan. It is even claimed Israel seeks to use Azerbaijani air base against Iran in a possible war. Azerbaijan gained a lot thanks to its relationships with Israel. Good for them. But demonising Iran for being against Azerbaijan is being hypocrite. It is totally understandable why they feel upset over it.
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a country to oppressed Turks in its own country and forbids them from practicing their own culture, they even imprison ethnic turks who give their children Turkish names
They seek to unify their country under one ethnicity for their national security. It doesnt fit our agenda so we should try to prevent that with our soft power and keep reminding Turks over there of their identity but again we cant blame Iran for what they do. I see you have a very irrational hate towards Iran.
Iran is hardly the ideal state but you act like Turkey has so much options to choose among. We will temporarily cooperate with them until Israel backs off, I mean sits on the table with us in our terms. We wont be becoming bffs with Iran. Just enough to scare Israel.
We know how Bulgaria deals with its Turkish minorities. Go ahead and make Bulgaria your enemy too then? We shall see how you deal with losing your trade with entire Europe.
At Ataturks time too Reza Shah was seeking to Persianify Iran. But we know he had good relationships with Ataturk. Founder of my faculty who was Ataturks dentist: Alfred Kantorowicz served Reza Shah as a diplomatic gesture(he made a prothesis if I recall it right).
Suleimani isn't a martyr he was an genocidal maniac that had the bloods of hundreds of thousands of syrians and iraqis on his hand and now is paying the price for it in hell.
Hmm you seem to have access to some sort of hell livestream link, care to share it?
Jokes aside, obviously a man in his position shouldnt be as innocent as a lamp but I would still take these accusations with a grain of salt. His rivals control the World media and public opinion after all.
And it will stay our enemy until it undergoes a regime change.
Hmm who is going to change the regime, US/Israel? When that happens I would see you when they also cooperated against Turkey once we again fall off with US. They stand as a non pro-US neighbour as of now. You want to be surrounded with US implanted regimes all over you? See how US implanted Sisi screws us with Egypts alliance with Greece.
Lets not act as if Iran didn't have an hand in helping empower the ypg and even to this day still tries to take full controll over it by trying to push assad into letting them have half the country so they can use the ypg against Turkey.
They for sure aided YPG/PKK at times, who didnt? Even Germany did it. But making Assad let Ypg take half the country? You were just being sceptical of their power a sentence ago. All they did was to pursue their interests in a shitshow created by US/Israel.
I do believe we have a lot of alligned interests with Iran. Unlike Israel they are capable of cooperating with Turkey.
We can even use lifting the embargo on Iran as a leverage over US.
I dont know what interest they had by supporting Ypg. Maybe they did it to hurt us because we were trying to make Assad fall?
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The fanaticism the persian shia's used to keep Assad in power led to over 10 million people fleeing the country and hundreds of thousands of dead. The Iranian regime has been far more devastating for Muslims then the Israeli one.
Oh yeah totally. People fleeing and dying are all on Assad and definitely not the ones for some reason trying to make him fall!
Shame on Assad for staying in power? How dare he does not just let go and most likely get killed?
What you said is like shooting a machine gun to a running/escaping target and blaming all the casualties on the target for him running/escaping. Saying had he not run away I wouldnt accidentally shoot all of these other people.
Before asking this you dont ask yourself why were there others(US/Turkey/Israel) at the first place trying to down president of a country.
