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  • Russia is hitting civilian areas in the proximity of 2-3 km from the border with Turkey.
  • DEVELOPING: Russian jets hit areas close to heavily populated towns and camps in northwestern Syria near the Turkish border - Reuters cites witnesses and Syrian opposition sources
  • Russia hits points close to the Turkish border. After the Tarhine and Al-Hamran attacks Russia continues to send messages to Turkey with ballistic missiles and airstrikes.

Absolute joke, on the one hand you have officials who want closer ties to EU, with the addition of economic and social reforms.

On the other hand, you have officials who want to cut ties with the West, leave treaties, and go back to an unorthodox economic policy.

Either way their are people that want closer ties with Russia and despise close links with the US, but at the end of the day, who is the one constantly bombing civilian areas and killing Turkish soldiers?

erdogan at the same time defended putin against joe biden. This what kind of joke it has become.

While putin pays it back with this.

Remember the ultimate betrayal when erdogan apologised for the russian pilot getting shot down while throwing the pilot into jail and accusing him of being a fetocu.

Our military's hands are tied. I said this before if we are going to slap russia our military needs to go rogue and defy what our stupid politicians do.

Russia is bombing with war planes and ballistic missiles while we reply back with artillery fire. Its pathetic.

Erdogans cabinet is not just filled with political islamists but also filled with dogu perinceks crowd who give their asses for russia.

Bears are savage animals that kill without warning onky way to fight a bear is to fight it with fire.
 
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erdogan at the same time defended putin against joe biden. This what kind of joke it has become.

While putin pays it back with this.

Remember the ultimate betrayal when erdogan apologised for the russian pilot getting shot down while throwing the pilot into jail and accusing him of being a fetocu.

Our military's hands are tied. I said this before if we are going to slap russia our military needs to go rogue and defy what our stupid politicians do.

Russia is bombing with war planes and ballistic missiles while we reply back with artillery fire. Its pathetic.

Erdogans cabinet is not just filled with political islamists but also filled with dogu perinceks crowd who give their asses for russia.

Bears are savage animals that kill without warning onky way to fight a bear is to fight it with fire.

AK party have no answers for the mess they helped create.

Literally their whole Syria policy is just to ride it out and hope for the best.
 

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More than 60 Turkish soldiers were killed (and countless Syrian civilians) due to repetead Russian airstrikes and even despite proofs of Russian involvements,Turkey always denies it and prefers to accuse the Syrian regime and its forces.

Unless Turkey stops burrying its head in the sand and answers accordingly to the Russians,this is never going to stop.
 

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Cowards in the goverment, not only that but also awful in diplomacy.

Biden attacks Putin, Erdogan immediately defends him trying to start beef with Biden, just for once mind your own business.
His counter came even before that of Ramsan Kadyrov, that means something.
 

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There might be a small danger but intercepting 5-6 km away shouldn't pose a very high risk especially if missiles are accurate enough where a smaller warhead can be used.

Rheinmetall recognized that their guns are not sufficient so is partnering with UAE company to offer a joint product with a CRAM HTK missile. I think 35mm isnt that good and range for CRAM is only 1.5km for mortars and small uavs. Also what about swarming strikes the system doenst seem like it has enough time to destroy all targets.
A gun can stop 20-30 threats
While their solution is 2 missiles added to a cannon which will allow 2 targets with missiles only.

Moreover, Thales already has StarStreak , Diehl BGT has Rolling airframe missile (RIM-116) to be placed on C-RAM, so the collaboration is more-likely for exports.

If it is going to be based on missiles then it makes most sense to be like Iron Dome.
 

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More than 60 Turkish soldiers were killed (and countless Syrian civilians) due to repetead Russian airstrikes and even despite proofs of Russian involvements,Turkey always denies it and prefers to accuse the Syrian regime and its forces.

Unless Turkey stops burrying its head in the sand and answers accordingly to the Russians,this is never going to stop.
Even more (past is past, but for now): Russians are obviously targeting civilian and economic infrastructure recently ,both to block funding of Rebels and to put Turkey on financial burden to repair and keep cities alive and keep refugees in Syrian lands.
 

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Even more (past is past, but for now): Russians are obviously targeting civilian and economic infrastructure recently ,both to block funding of Rebels and to put Turkey on financial burden to repair and keep cities alive and keep refugees in Syrian lands.

Turkish ruled land are better than assad's rule. Most of the Turkish ran places have ditched the syrian currency and are using Turkish lira.

They are trying to cause refugees also trying to destroy the local economy.

The problem is as long as Turkiye does nothing this emboldens the bear. They got a blank cheque.
 

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More than 60 Turkish soldiers were killed (and countless Syrian civilians) due to repetead Russian airstrikes and even despite proofs of Russian involvements,Turkey always denies it and prefers to accuse the Syrian regime and its forces.

Unless Turkey stops burrying its head in the sand and answers accordingly to the Russians,this is never going to stop.

Erdogan defended putin against biden.

Also erdogans cabinet not just has islamists and other ideologies his cabinet also has lots of pro russian pricks who call themselves eurasianists they are also anti west.
 

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A gun can stop 20-30 threats
While their solution is 2 missiles added to a cannon which will allow 2 targets with missiles only.

Moreover, Thales already has StarStreak , Diehl BGT has Rolling airframe missile (RIM-116) to be placed on C-RAM, so the collaboration is more-likely for exports.
Not exactly, SkyKnight is a box launcher of 60 missiles of which 16 can be launched in 3.5 seconds according to manufacturer. 4 missile launching units(MLU) can be integrated with Skynex with 60 missiles each plus 20 in the air at the same time per launcher so a total of 80 targets can be engaged in theory.

This is more or less a mini IronDome that is cheaper and with shorter range.

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It is way ahead of Starstreak or RIM-116 to be honest if its on paper value is to be trusted. This should generate a lot of exports for those who currently use Skyguard and want to upgrade to something much more capable.
 

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Erdogan defended putin against biden.

Also erdogans cabinet not just has islamists and other ideologies his cabinet also has lots of pro russian pricks who call themselves eurasianists they are also anti west.
Yeah I thought that move was dumb. Turkey has the opportunity to repair relations somewhat with the US but Erdo wants to defend Putin before even Kadyrov did.
 

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5 Turkish fckin drones flew not one did a drone strike.

This is pathetic and sad. Seriously I dont know what to say.
 

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This is more or less a mini IronDome that is cheaper and with shorter range.

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It is way ahead of Starstreak or RIM-116 to be honest if its on paper value is to be trusted. This should generate a lot of exports for those who currently use Skyguard and want to upgrade to something much more capable.
Yes but i particularly referred to rheinmetall's solution of cannon+missile combo it had 2 missiles or another mobile platform had 2 or 4.

But i think you referred to skynex which consists of a whole network of air defense systems, not the skyguard module.

Ram has 10+ km range as well, 2.5 mach speed
Starstreak has 7+ km range with 4 mach speed
And for this missile technical informations are not absolute because it is still on paper but the range is given as up to 10 km.

If i were halcon i would put this system on Yemen border and get is tested by KSA.

Hard to tell the missile is "way greater" before it is actually getting tested on the field.
 

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Russian/Syrian attacks have increased over the past few days in Idlib. Unplanned reinforcements of the Russian Air Force (SU34 notably) were reported. Syrian forces are sending reinforcements from other provinces to Idlib. Something is cooking it seems.
 

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Russian/Syrian attacks have increased over the past few days in Idlib. Unplanned reinforcements of the Russian Air Force (SU34 notably) were reported. Syrian forces are sending reinforcements from other provinces to Idlib. Something is cooking it seems.

The Russians can probably smell the weakness and turmoil in Ankara from Moscow.
 

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