TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

[Baryshx]

Btw, That's what we were shown in the promotional videos.

 

[Agha Sher]

Btw, That's what we were shown in the promotional videos.

I think we got catfished

 

[Baryshx]

I think we got catfished

Is this the same thing that happened with TF-X? Maybe in the end it will go well like TF-X.

 

[Sanders]

Btw, That's what we were shown in the promotional videos.

When I saw these for the first time, I said ''this is how an attack helicopter should be''. But here we are.
I really don't understand why the frontal design changed so much.

I mean, the place of FLIR and machine gun doesn't make sense at all while even ordinary people know this, it sounds impossible for thousands of engineers to make a mistake in such a matter.

It is very unusual when we compare FLIR and machine gun location with AH-64, Mi-28 etc...

 

[Baryshx]

I mean, the place of FLIR and machine gun doesn't make sense at all while even ordinary people know this, it sounds impossible for thousands of engineers to make a mistake in such a matter.

It is very unusual when we compare FLIR and machine gun location with AH-64, Mi-28 etc...

We will probably bring a new look at the literature on this subject

 

[Sanders]

We will probably bring a new look at the literature on this subject

Well if so, will see that in the shooting tests.

 

[Baryshx]

How to fuck up projects for political gain Im happy that didn't fuck up Hürjet

No, it was actually going on on its own timetable Atak 2.

 

[Manomed The Second]

No, it was actually going on on its own timetable Atak 2.

That flir placement and worksmanship looks nothing like the quality of Hürjet and Atak.
Even the prototype of TFX looks smooth

 

[Baryshx]

That flir placement and worksmanship looks nothing like the quality of Hürjet and Atak.
Even the prototype of TFX looks smooth

I think this photo was taken a long time ago.

 

[Manomed The Second]

Gökbey with few atgm launchers would be a beauty

 

[Shtr]

We have even two different prototypes for Kizilelma with significant differences in design

 

[Manomed The Second]

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Some people never learn.

this time Its not me but lots of people too goodluck with that flir lmao

 

[Bürküt]

this time Its not me but lots of people too goodluck with that flir lmao

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648578415287578624

He is right about that

 

[Zafer]

This is absurd, yet they sometimes do tricks to disguise the actual final product.

 

[begturan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648578415287578624

He is right about that

i think it is not prototype nor mock-up, it must be using for test purposes testing flir and gun. it is what a ugly design, it can not be, it musnt be prototype!

 

[Mehmed Ali]

I have always thought that the primary purpose of the weapons and weapons systems is to serve as deterrent or to kill someone. If it looks good, it is just for subjective feel good factor. The looks of these things are of no importance at all. Forming an opinion on the basis of some blurry pictures is a moot point, irrational completely.
For weapons od these types, the other things are important. The things as dependability, reliability, ease of maintenance, rank and file training, effectiveness of electronics and weapons systems and logistics. That's all to it. To debate about looks or the quality of workmanship on the PROTOTYPE is pretty meaningless. I can tell you from my experience , these things aren't used for a beauty contest

 

[Bürküt]

i think it is not prototype nor mock-up, it must be using for test purposes testing flir and gun. it is what a ugly design, it can not be, it musnt be prototype!

According to @VLS from the defenceturk forum, this is the official demo prototype.He said that there might be small changes in the mass production phase.

 

[Bürküt]

I have always thought that the primary purpose of the weapons and weapons systems is to serve as deterrent or to kill someone. If it looks good, it is just for subjective feel good factor. The looks of these things are of no importance at all. Forming an opinion on the basis of some blurry pictures is a moot point, irrational completely.
For weapons od these types, the other things are important. The things as dependability, reliability, ease of maintenance, rank and file training, effectiveness of electronics and weapons systems and logistics. That's all to it. To debate about looks or the quality of workmanship on the PROTOTYPE is pretty meaningless. I can tell you from my experience , these things aren't used for a beauty contest

You miss the point.People are criticizing because it doesn't look functional.Those who know say that there is a problem with the position of the barrel with the Flir.They say the muzzle flame will have a bad effect on the flir.Also that the angle of the gun can't look too high and because of that they say there can be only fire while the helicopter is hovering.

 

[Sanders]

The FLIR and machine gun location would create the problem not only because of distortion of FLIR's image quality but also the approach angle which is a bigger problem in my opinion.
As far as I understand, as the helicopter moves forward, they tilt their noses down and meanwhile, the machine gun must be at an upward angle to fire at a target. Otherwise, the helicopter must remain suspended in the air.

As we can see in the AH-1W:

 

[Era_shield]

I don't get peoples ignorance. Mr Mevlutoglu is a well known in this sector and even he find Atak 2 quite absurd. Some of you guys should stop being over defensive and be open for some criticism. We don't want this project to end up like Hürkuş. Mistakes should be eliminated from start till it gets too late.

No. Instead, Mevlutoglu should stop jumping to judgements about projects based on a single blurry photo.