TR Defence Exports & Updates

[Rooxbar]

Our chances in Argentina is less than zero with Milei and his team at the helm.

 

[Sanchez]

Are we selling them to cheap or something? If the usa would sell 1059 Armored Vehicles they'd charge an arm, leg and other parts of that Country...

Pretty much market prices for base vehicles, nearly 1 million apiece. Nurol signed for 100 vehicles with Estonia last year for 70 million, 700k apiece. Nurol NMS was also a contender in Romania's tender but pulled out along with all the others, leaving Cobra II as the sole entrant. To add, "we" are not selling anything, Otokar is. Otokar is in this to make money, I'd think they would have thought about their profit margins when putting in an entry to build 1000 vehicles.

And building 781 Vehicles in Romania is cringe as well.

Why?

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Pretty much market prices for base vehicles, nearly 1 million apiece. Nurol signed for 100 vehicles with Estonia last year for 70 million, 700k apiece. Nurol NMS was also a contender in Romania's tender but pulled out along with all the others, leaving Cobra II as the sole entrant. To add, "we" are not selling anything, Otokar is. Otokar is in this to make money, I'd think they would have thought about their profit margins when putting in an entry to build 1000 vehicles.


Why?

Because I don't favor teaching others that aren't super close.

 

[Sanchez]

Because I don't favor teaching others that aren't super close.

Romania is a pretty important country for Turkey. And these are very simple armored vehicles. It's also a great way for the company to enter the EU market for future tenders. Nurol did the same in Hungary for the exact reason.

 

[CAN_TR]

Hungary, Estonia, Romania and now Nurol builds a production facility in the UK for up to 1600 Ejder (Dragon 4x4).

Very important deals for Turkish companies, selling equipment to European countries (higher standards) will increase the stance of Turkish products globally but selling similar equipment to a random African will not. Money is the same but the "prestige" not.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Romania is a pretty important country for Turkey. And these are very simple armored vehicles. It's also a great way for the company to enter the EU market for future tenders. Nurol did the same in Hungary for the exact reason.

Hmm, makes sense. I stand corrected.

 

[Huelague]

Our chances in Argentina is less than zero with Milei and his team at the helm.

Business is business. Anything else, is anything else.

 

[Rooxbar]

Business is business. Anything else, is anything else.

Business is politics. Everything is politics.

 

[Huelague]

Business is politics. Everything is politics.

Yes and no. We have some good economical relations despite bad political relation.

 

[Sanchez]

Speaking of Argentina, they've been using Aselsan's İhasavar anti drone devices with their armored units. That is an Austrian SK-105, very interesting photo.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841212766494859433

 

[what]

I think the plant in Romania will be smart business. As you know, France for example is blocking non EU products from being acquired for Ukraine with the EU funds among other things. What I'm trying to say is this will be a backdoor into many European projects and funds.

Kudos to Otokar.

 

[Saithan]

I sincerely hope that these production facilities can be used to employ smart people that could contribute to our defense sector development.

 

[Scott Summers]

Otokar confirms sale of 1,059 COBRA II armored vehicles to Romania

Turkish media cited local defense company Otokar as announcing that it had won a tender in Romania for the supply 1,059 COBRA II wheeled armored vehicles.

bulgarianmilitary.com

 

[Isbara]

Speaking of Argentina, they've been using Aselsan's İhasavar anti drone devices with their armored units. That is an Austrian SK-105, very interesting photo.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841212766494859433

Is that AMX-13 ?

 

[Radko]

Is that AMX-13 ?

SK-105

 

[Sanchez]

Interesting news. Niger is reportedly planning to buy Karayel-SU. They also operate TB2. Per the claim they wanted more TB2s but didn't like Baykar's "overcharged" offer.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844368448991920290

 

[Zafer]

Interesting news. Niger is reportedly planning to buy Karayel-SU. They also operate TB2. Per the claim they wanted more TB2s but didn't like Baykar's "overcharged" offer.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844368448991920290

They probably wanted to buy at the price level of their previous order and didn't take dollar inflation into account. Karayel is different and it will be a logistical nightmare for Niger down the road.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Interesting news. Niger is reportedly planning to buy Karayel-SU. They also operate TB2. Per the claim they wanted more TB2s but didn't like Baykar's "overcharged" offer.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844368448991920290

I'm glad that Karayel got this opportunity since its only export so far was to Saudi Arabia.
Vestel Savunma (now Lentatek) has worked long years on this financing it itself and went through many prototypes and modifications before or at the same time frame where the Caldiran (TB-2s forefather) was being developed by Baykar.

 

[somegoodusername]

Karayel is different and it will be a logistical nightmare for Niger down the road.

100-horsepower propeller-driven aircraft don’t become a logistical nightmare. That’s why the TB-2 became so popular in Africa. Jet aircraft require a higher level of maintenance capabilities, but you can maintain small propeller-driven aircraft with just some university students.

 

[Zafer]

100-horsepower propeller-driven aircraft don’t become a logistical nightmare. That’s why the TB-2 became so popular in Africa. Jet aircraft require a higher level of maintenance capabilities, but you can maintain small propeller-driven aircraft with just some university students.

Having two different aircraft with different parts will make complications compared to having just one.