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[Yasar_TR]

What is a suitable airbase for operating 5th gen fighter?

A landing strip is not enough. You need special ground systems, ancillaries and specially trained crew, in addition to the specially designed enclosures to house step platforms and equipment.

If we go over just a few small details:

- A minimum capacity of 2,100 cubic feet of nitrogen at 3,500 psig with a capability of boosting nitrogen supply pressure up to 5,000 psig. In addition, The Cart had to provide a constant supply of nitrogen at flow rates up to 32 SCFM for a minimum of 20 minutes at 72 ±1.5 psi. This is for the tyres.

- The J00010 and J00011 Maintenance Platforms with a requirement to manually raise and lower, offering easy manoeuvrability to provide maintenance personnel access to areas of the F-35 that are beyond the normal reach and height.

- A dedicated area to replenish RAM paint and a store for used and scraped paint to be returned back to US.

- Special ground power units. Dedicated crew for Weapons loading and transporting equipment.

- Hydraulic and Pneumatic Systems Equipment: Equipment for testing and maintaining the hydraulic and pneumatic systems critical to the operation of the F-35. Areas to keep these equipment.

etc etc etc

The more of these systems you can house in the airfields, the shorter your operational downtime will be.

 

[Afif]

A landing strip is not enough. You need special ground systems, ancillaries and specially trained crew, in addition to the specially designed enclosures to house step platforms and equipment.

If we go over just a few small details:

- A minimum capacity of 2,100 cubic feet of nitrogen at 3,500 psig with a capability of boosting nitrogen supply pressure up to 5,000 psig. In addition, The Cart had to provide a constant supply of nitrogen at flow rates up to 32 SCFM for a minimum of 20 minutes at 72 ±1.5 psi. This is for the tyres.

- The J00010 and J00011 Maintenance Platforms with a requirement to manually raise and lower, offering easy manoeuvrability to provide maintenance personnel access to areas of the F-35 that are beyond the normal reach and height.

- A dedicated area to replenish RAM paint and a store for used and scraped paint to be returned back to US.

- Special ground power units. Dedicated crew for Weapons loading and transporting equipment.

- Hydraulic and Pneumatic Systems Equipment: Equipment for testing and maintaining the hydraulic and pneumatic systems critical to the operation of the F-35. Areas to keep these equipment.

etc etc etc

Yes. Infrastructure modifications and logistical set up takes place when the procurement takes place.

Other than that, I don't think any AF goes through all these just to prove it is worthy of operating 5th gen platforms sometimes in the remote future. like @somegoodusername was asking.

 

[somegoodusername]

Do you think we can't afford it.
Unfortunately,most Malaysian will rather spend more money on the country and welfare instead on defense.
The country leaders give such a low priority on defense that bordering on like treason.
Anyway we do can afford it if we want too after deducting big subsidies that cost tens of usd bilions we give to malaysian yearly.
Furthermore,Our gdp per capita is higher than Turkey.

You can't politically afford it. There is a reason why Turkish Air Force mostly consists of F-16's. We have been offered Eurofighters and F-15's in the past too, even A-10's. Air Force decided F-16's would be more bang for the buck. You buy the plane you need, you don't need Kaan. Buy KF-21 NG or F-35 if they sell to you and be happy.

 

[wolveray1]

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Why do all these "defense analysts" from South Asian and Southeast Asian countries talk as if they have the funds to buy Kaan or even the capability to operate it in the first place? Kaan is going to be expensive and a heavy burden even for most European NATO countries. Kaan's only export market in Asia is maybe Pakistan, and that is for low numbers. Those Malaysians, Philippines, Indonesians that think they can buy and fly the Kaan are delusional. Just buy affordable Rafales F-16's of KF-21's.

Furthermore this poster goodforloser is insulting most countries in SEA considering that most of these countries are buying Tyrkish defense weapons.
Of course some of them can't afford it yet doesn't mean you can insult them.
I'm pretty sure he will insult mmost muslim nations too who are also buying Turkish weapon.
Yeah bro...why don't you sell to your buddy in europe or US...
Pls do..

 

[somegoodusername]

Furthermore this poster goodforloser is insulting most countries in SEA considering that most of these countries are buying Tyrkish defense weapons.
Of course some of them can't afford it yet doesn't mean you can insult them.
I'm pretty sure he will insult mmost muslim nations too who are also buying Turkish weapon.
Yeah bro...why don't you sell to your buddy in europe or US...
Pls do..

I am thinking of your well-being. Europeans laughs when they managed to sell unnecessarily expensive weapons to Gulf Arab countries. And Turkish products is doing good in European countries who don't have their own defense industries. Little by little.

Also you are not much richer than us. You had median income of 7512 dollars and we had median income of 5251 dollars in 2020. Median income is a better indicator of the average citizen's well-being compared to GDP per capita, which can be inflated by factors like oil revenues that primarily benefit the wealthy.

Median Income by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[wolveray1]

You can't politically afford it. There is a reason why Turkish Air Force mostly consists of F-16's. We have been offered Eurofighters and F-15's in the past too, even A-10's. Air Force decided F-16's would be more bang for the buck. You buy the plane you need, you don't need Kaan. Buy KF-21 NG or F-35 if they sell to you and be happy

I am thinking of your well-being. Europeans laughs when they managed to sell unnecessarily expensive weapons to Gulf Arab countries. And Turkish products is doing good in European countries who don't have their own defense industries. Little by little.

Also you are not much richer than us. You had median income of 7512 dollars and we had median income of 5251 dollars in 2020. Median income is a better indicator of the average citizen's well-being compared to GDP per capita, which can be inflated by factors like oil revenues that primarily benefit the wealthy.

Median Income by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

What well being.
Billions yearly are being subsidies to the people.
They just don't care about defense.
Even Indonesian are buying a lot of rafales and F16V.
Pls lah...
I'm not here to say which country is better .....Just don't try to insult any countries on public forum.

 

[YeşilVatan]

You can't politically afford it. There is a reason why Turkish Air Force mostly consists of F-16's. We have been offered Eurofighters and F-15's in the past too, even A-10's. Air Force decided F-16's would be more bang for the buck. You buy the plane you need, you don't need Kaan. Buy KF-21 NG or F-35 if they sell to you and be happy.

I wish people understood this point. There comes a moment when politicians decide throwing money at the military is the better option. This is influenced by a variety of factors, but for most nations it's still far away. Financial limitations are real, and should be taken seriously. But politics is the thing that is really preventing a "huge" budget in most cases.