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Fairly good representation by India at Viet defence fair, time stamp: 14:15 - 28.10


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@Viva_vietnamm bro, does the fellow filming say anything you found interesting?
India's defense industry is very strong, it can be said that all the best is here. Akas weapon system can track 64 targets, this system is not too expensive.Astra air-to-air missile, integrated on the Su 30, has a range of about 100km. The Tal torpedo, developed with India's own technology, has a range of about 20km. India's early warning aircraft has Israeli technology integrated. The fighter is self-developed by India, but still incomplete. SAAW-DRDO missile is a smart weapon used to attack ground targets such as airports, with a range of 90-100km, with good maneuverability. AMOGHA anti-tank missile shoot and forget, range up to 2000m.

Tank T 90 S manufactured by India under license from Russia. Tank T 72 manufactured by India etc, and this is the Brahmos missile quite impressive with versions for submarines, warships. this is an impressive Indian frigate with integrated Brahmos, looking like the design of the Soviet era etc

The general comment is that India brings a lot of impressive products, but the plastic models are not beautiful :ROFLMAO:
 

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India's defense industry is very strong, it can be said that all the best is here. Akas weapon system can track 64 targets, this system is not too expensive.Astra air-to-air missile, integrated on the Su 30, has a range of about 100km. The Tal torpedo, developed with India's own technology, has a range of about 20km. India's early warning aircraft has Israeli technology integrated. The fighter is self-developed by India, but still incomplete. SAAW-DRDO missile is a smart weapon used to attack ground targets such as airports, with a range of 90-100km, with good maneuverability. AMOGHA anti-tank missile shoot and forget, range up to 2000m.

Tank T 90 S manufactured by India under license from Russia. Tank T 72 manufactured by India etc, and this is the Brahmos missile quite impressive with versions for submarines, warships. this is an impressive Indian frigate with integrated Brahmos, looking like the design of the Soviet era etc

The general comment is that India brings a lot of impressive products, but the plastic models are not beautiful :ROFLMAO:
Tier 2 i beleive
Us Russia China are tier 1
Germany korea Spain turkey etc are tier 2
 

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Tier 2 i beleive
Us Russia China are tier 1
Germany korea Spain Turkiye etc are tier 2
This clasification based on more or less on export size, not on the technological aspect.
Their is no way russian tech could be considered tier one!
The list should be like that,
Tier 1 USA
Tier 2 China, UK, france, germany, Italy, Sweeden, Japan, South Korea, Turkey, Israel, India and Russia.
 

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Defence experts share their views on growing defence exports. Schemes like Make in India, strong policy initiatives and comprehensive & integrated approach towards indigenisation are the reasons behind growing defence exports.

Anchor- Maroof Raza

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1. Baba Kalyani, Chairman & Managing Director, Bharat Forge
2. Rudra Shriram, Chair, Defence Committee, PHD Chamber of Commerce & Industry
3.Shekhar Dutt, Former Secretary, Ministry of Defence
 

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BDL received an export order worth $255 million...still unknown as to who's the customer, and what's the product/service sold. Safe to assume its something missile or rocket-related.

 

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On Wednesday, Reuters reported that the India-based defense company BrahMos Aerospace is on the verge of closing a deal to sell Indonesia supersonic cruise missiles worth at least $200 million.

The report was based on an interview with Atul D. Rane, the CEO of BrahMos Aerospace, who said that the firm was “in advanced discussions with Jakarta on a deal worth $200 million to $350 million,” as per Reuters’ paraphrase. The deal will reportedly involve both the anti-ship variant of the BrahMos weapons system and a version that can be mounted on warships.

“I have a team right now in Jakarta,” Rane told the news agency, adding that he expects to close the deal within the year. He added, “The defense forces of Indonesia are extremely interested.”

BrahMos Aerospace, a joint venture between India and Russia that was set up in India in 1998, has been negotiating with Indonesia for a possible purchase for some time. Last July, Indian media reports claimed that the two parties were in the final stages of talks for the possible order of the shore-based variant.

The world’s fastest supersonic cruise missile, the BrahMos can be launched from submarines, ships, aircraft, or from land platforms, and flies at nearly three times the speed of sound, making it nearly impossible for targets to evade. This has unsurprisingly made it attractive to a number of Southeast Asian states, particularly in need of a potent deterrent against Chinese incursions into disputed waters that these nations claim in the South China Sea.

If and when the deal is concluded, Indonesia will become the second Southeast Asian nation to purchase the BrahMos missile. In January, the Philippines closed a $374 million deal to acquire the BrahMos weapons system, strengthening its navy’s ability to safeguard its sovereign claims in the South China Sea. Rane told Reuters that the missiles are scheduled to be delivered to the Philippine Marine Corps beginning later this year. He added that this could soon be supplemented by a second order of around $300 million with the Philippines and that the Ferdinand Marcos Jr. administration was “looking at more systems.”

The acquisition is part of the military modernization drive that it has undertaken in recent years, which has been accelerated since the appointment of Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto in 2019. This has been driven in part by China’s increasingly assertive actions, especially in the waters around the Natuna Islands, a section of which is bisected by Beijing’s expansive “nine-dash line” claim.

Reuters cited statistics from the defense intelligence company Janes showing that Indonesia’s investment in the acquisition of new weapons grew by around 69 percent last year, after nearly 28 percent in 2021. While the TNI-AL has operated the ship-based Russian-origin Yakhont supersonic anti-ship cruise missile since 2011, a BrahMos acquisition would represent a powerful enhancement of Indonesia’s maritime deterrent capability.

A second BrahMos sale to the region would consolidate India’s status as the region’s second significant player in the supersonic missile game, after Russia. Thailand, Malaysia, and Vietnam have also expressed interest in purchasing the weapons system. A deal would mark an important step toward the fulfillment of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s goal of bolstering India’s domestic defense industry.

At last month’s Aero India air show, the Indian leader announced plans to more than triple the country’s annual defense exports to $5 billion over the next two years. “Today, India is not just a market for defense companies, it is also a potential defense partner,” Modi said in a speech.
 

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Defence exports, at all-time high of Rs 16,000 crore, include made-in-India ATAGS​


The sale of indigenous Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System, which is yet to be inducted into the Indian Army, is a revelation. Defence ministry mum on which country made the purchase.​

SNEHESH ALEX PHILIP
2 April, 2023 10:59 am IST


ATAGS during firing trials | Commons


ATAGS during firing trials | Commons

New Delhi: India’s defence exports, which have reached an all-time high of Rs 15,920 crore in the financial year 2022-23, include the sale of the indigenous Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System (ATAGS), the defence ministry has announced.
The approximately Rs 16,000 crore-worth exports were almost Rs 3,000 crore more than the previous financial year. It has risen over 10 times since 2016-17, the defence ministry said.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi described the achievement as a clear manifestation of India’s talent, saying, “It also shows the reforms in this sector over the last few years are delivering good results. Our government will keep supporting efforts to make India a defence production hub”.


Calling it a a remarkable achievement for the country, Defence Minister Rajnath Singh in a tweet said, “Our defence exports will continue to grow exponentially.”
While it was reported that the exports this fiscal will be at an all-time high, the sale of ATAGS, which is yet to be inducted into the Indian Army, is a revelation.

While the defence ministry remained mum on which country bought the 155mm ATAGS gun system — which has been developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation, in collaboration with the Kalyani Group and TATA — though sources indicated that it could be Armenia.

Earlier, it was speculated that Armenia had bought the mounted gun system for itself from the Kalyani Group.
However, the statement by the defence ministry Saturday did not mention the mounted gun system.
“India, which was known as an importer about eight years ago, exports major platforms like Dornier-228, 155 mm Advanced Towed Artillery Guns (ATAGs), Brahmos Missiles, Akash Missile System, Radars, Simulators, Mine Protected Vehicles, Armoured Vehicles, PINAKA Rockets & Launchers, Ammunitions, Thermal Imagers, Body Armours…”, the defence ministry statement said.
Incidentally, in an interview to ThePrint, Amit Kalyani, the scion of the Kalyani Group and deputy managing director at Bharat Forge, part of Kalyani Group, had said that India will become the global hub for manufacturing and export of artillery guns.
It was just last month that the defence ministry sanctioned the process to procure 307 ATAGS for the Indian Army.

India is now exporting to over 85 countries. Indian industry has shown its capability of design and development to the world, with 100 firms exporting defence products at present.
The defence ministry highlighted that export procedures have been simplified and made industry-friendly with end-to-end online export authorisation curtailing delays and bringing Ease of Doing Business.
The government has notified three Open General Export Licences (OGEL) for export of Parts and Components/Transfer of Technology/Major Platforms and Equipment.

OGEL is a one-time export licence that permits the industry to export specified items to specified destinations, enumerated in the OGEL, without seeking export authorisation during the validity of the OGEL.
The Modi government had in 2020 set an ambitious target of Rs 35,000 crore ($5 billion) export in aerospace, and defence goods and services for the next five years. This was part of the Rs 1.75 lakh crore ($25 billion) turnover in defence manufacturing that the government is aiming to achieve by 2025.
 

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