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Tiga warga Pontianak yang merupakan kerabat dari salah satu penumpang pesawat Sriwijaya Air menangis di ruang tunggu Terminal Kedatangan Bandara Supadio, Kabupaten Kubu Raya, Kalimantan Barat, Sabtu (9/1/2021). Basarnas Pontianak menyatakan pihaknya telah menyiapkan crisis center dan posko informasi di Bandara Supadio untuk keluarga dari penumpang pesawat Sriwijaya Air SJY 182 rute Jakarta-Pontianak yang hingga kini masih hilang kontak. ANTARA FOTO/Jessica Helena Wuysang/foc.
 

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Air Force readies choppers, airplanes to search for Sriwijaya 737 jet​

9th Jan 2021 22:10
Air Force readies choppers, airplanes to search for Sriwijaya 737 jet


Jakarta (ANTARA) - The Indonesian Air Force (TNI AU) has readied two helicopters and a plane to help search for a Sriwijaya Air plane that lost contact with air traffic controllers on Saturday.

TNI AU readied the helicopter and plane to follow instruction from Chief of the National Defense Forces (TNI) Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto, Air Force spokesman First Marshal Indan Gilang B said, in a written statement released on Saturday.

The two helicopters are Super Puma NAS-332 from Air Squadron 6 and EC-725 Caracal from Air Squadron 8 at Atang Sendjaja Airbase in Bogor, West Java.

The planes are maritime spy fixed wing Boeing 737 from Air Squadron 5 at Sultan Hasanudin Airbase in Makassar and CN-295 of Air Squadron 2 from Halim Perdanakusuma Airbase in Jakarta.

Sriwijaya Air flight number SJY 182 took off from Soekarno-Hatta Airport at 2.40 p.m. local time on Saturday, and was scheduled to land at Supadio Airport in Pontianak, West Kalimantan, at 3:50 p.m.

The Ministry of Transportation has confirmed that airport authorities lost contact with Sriwijaya Air flight number SJY 182 serving the Jakarta-Pontianak route at approximately 2:40 p.m.

"There has been contact lost with a Sriwijaya aircraft on the Jakarta - Pontianak route with call sign SJY 182. The last contact was at 14:40 WIB," the Ministry's Director General of Air Transportation, Novie Riyanto, told Antara here on Saturday.

Novie said an investigation was currently being coordinated with the National SAR Agency (Basarnas) and the National Transportation Safety Committee (KNKT).

"We will provide further information if there are new developments," he added.

The Boeing 737-500 jet, registration number PK CLC, had its last contact at a position 11 nautical miles north of Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, Tangerang, in suburban Jakarta, after passing an altitude of 11,000 feet and while rising to 13,000 feet.
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Related news: Officials say 50 passengers, 12 crew aboard missing Sriwijaya plane

Related news: Tanjung Priok Police set up post for Sriwijaya Air crash at JICT II

Translated by: Boyke Ledy W/Suharto
Editor: Fardah Assegaf

 

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The possible PAX manifest of the flight


And in case anyone wondering as how the weather was during the crash. Here is the Metars reading :

WIII 090900Z 29006KT 6000 -RA BKN017 25/23 Q1006 NOSIG=
WIII 090830Z 29008KT 4000 RA OVC017 25/24 Q1006 NOSIG=
WIII 090800Z 28008KT 4000 -RA BKN016 OVC018 26/24 Q1006 NOSIG=
WIII 090730Z 30006KT 5000 -RA FEW017CB OVC018 25/24 Q1006 NOSIG=

WIII 090700Z 30007KT 4000 VCTS RA FEW016CB OVC018 25/24 Q1007 NOSIG=
WIII 090630Z 34007KT 2000 TSRA FEW016CB OVC018 25/24 Q1007 NOSIG RMK CB OVER THE FIELD=
WIII 090600Z 34010G20KT 5000 VCTS -RA FEW016CB OVC018 26/24 Q1007 NOSIG RMK CB TO W AND NW=
WIII 090530Z 35012KT 5000 VCTS -RA FEW016CB BKN018 26/25 Q1007 NOSIG RMK CB TO NW AND N=
WIII 090500Z 34012KT 6000 VCTS FEW016CB BKN018 28/24 Q1008 TEMPO 5000 -TSRA RMK CB TO NW AND N=
WIII 090430Z 28010KT 9999 SCT020 31/24 Q1008 NOSIG=

Based upon ADS-B data, the flight depart of WIII runway 25R at 07:36Z (14:36J). After climbing through 10600' rapidly descent to 1400' (last contact)
RIP. Condolences to the families.
 

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Some very saddening statements coming in now from some of the relatives of those that were onboard.

My heart and deepest condolences goes out to them and to Indonesian nation.... RIP.
 

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Some very saddening statements coming in now from some of the relatives of those that were onboard.

My heart and deepest condolences goes out to them and to Indonesian nation.... RIP.

Yup especially one dad who lost his wife and all of the kids of three who onboard to visit him in Pontianak because he is working there. This very saddening
 

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As much I don't want to sound as making premature speculation regarding flight SJ182. What has been known so far speak a large volume. One in particular is, how BASARNAS only aware of the crash after being informed by AirNav, because the plane failed to broadcast its ELT, which strongly imply that the plane was ill maintained. That alone lead to another strong possibility that the airline could neglect to replace the battery of the plane CVR & FDR (Lithium primary battery) which will make search effort difficult because the units would not be pinging.

I just hope the battery of the plane CVR & FDR still able to provide power and pinging by now.
 

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Helikopter EC 725 Caracal TNI AU terbang dalam misi pencarian korban dan puing pesawat Sriwijaya Air SJ 182 di atas perairan Kepulauan Seribu, Jakarta, Minggu (10/1/2021). TNI AU mengerahkan 150 personel dan empat armada, antara lain pesawat CN 295, helikopter EC 725 Caracal, helikopter NAS 332 Super Puma dan pesawat Boeing 737 dengan dibantu helikopter Basarnas AW 305 untuk melakukan pencarian korban dan puing pesawat Sriwijaya Air SJ 182 dari udara di perairan Kepulauan Seribu. ANTARA FOTO/Humas Kemenko Polhukam/wsj.
 

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Helikopter EC 725 Caracal TNI AU terbang dalam misi pencarian korban dan puing pesawat Sriwijaya Air SJ 182 di atas perairan Kepulauan Seribu, Jakarta, Minggu (10/1/2021). TNI AU mengerahkan 150 personel dan empat armada, antara lain pesawat CN 295, helikopter EC 725 Caracal, helikopter NAS 332 Super Puma dan pesawat Boeing 737 dengan dibantu helikopter Basarnas AW 305 untuk melakukan pencarian korban dan puing pesawat Sriwijaya Air SJ 182 dari udara di perairan Kepulauan Seribu. ANTARA FOTO/Humas Kemenko Polhukam/wsj.
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I'll be very cautious in using ADSB data. ADSB is based upon GNSS only (typically GPS), thus the speed is AGL rather than TAS. Anyway here is the visualization based upon the KML data

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New Super Puma NAS 332 C1+, customer commercial training for pilots and ground crew

Credit to skuadron udara 6 via Lembaga Keris

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JANUARY 10, 20213:12 PMUPDATED 11 HOURS AGO

Sriwijaya Air crash places Indonesia's aviation safety under fresh spotlight​

By Jamie Freed, Stanley Widianto

SYDNEY/JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia’s poor air safety record is again in the spotlight after a Sriwijaya Air jet carrying 62 people crashed into the Java Sea minutes after take-off on Saturday, marking the country’s third major airline crash in just over six years.



An Indonesian Air Force pilots work in the cockpit during an aerial search for the Sriwijaya Air SJ-182, which crashed to the sea, in Jakarta, Indonesia, January 10, 2021. REUTERS/Willy Kurniawan
There has been no word of any survivors.
Before the crash, there had been 697 fatalities in Indonesia over the last decade including military and private planes, making it the deadliest aviation market in the world - ahead of Russia, Iran and Pakistan - according to Aviation Safety Network’s database.
The crash of the Sriwijaya flight, operated by a Boeing Co 737-500, follows the loss of a Lion Air 737 MAX in October 2018, which contributed to a global grounding of the model.
The Lion Air crash, which killed 189 people, was an outlier in that it mainly revealed fundamental issues with the plane model and triggered a worldwide safety crisis for Boeing. Even excluding the deaths from that crash, Indonesia would rank above Russia if there are no survivors from Saturday’s crash.
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Indonesia, an archipelago of thousands of islands, is highly dependent on air travel and its safety issues illustrate the challenge relatively new carriers face as they try to keep pace with unstoppable demand for air travel in developing nations while striving for standards that mature markets took decades to reach.
From 2007 to 2018, the European Union banned Indonesian airlines following a series of crashes and reports of deteriorating oversight and maintenance. The United States lowered its Indonesia safety evaluation to Category 2, meaning its regulatory system was inadequate, between 2007 and 2016.
Indonesia’s air safety record has improved in recent years, receiving a favourable evaluation by the United Nations aviation agency in 2018. But in a country with a large death toll from vehicle and ferry accidents, the safety culture is battling against a mindset that makes it inevitable for some crashes to occur, experts said.
Saturday’s “crash has nothing to do with the MAX, but Boeing would do well to guide Indonesia - which has a chequered air safety record - to restore confidence in its aviation industry,” said Shukor Yusof, the head of Malaysia-based aviation consultancy Endau Analytics.



Authorities located the Sriwijaya jet’s flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder on Sunday but experts said it was too early to determine the factors responsible for the crash of the nearly 27-year-old plane.
The flight took off from Jakarta’s Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, the same airport from which the Lion Air jet took off and soon crashed into the sea. The Sriwijaya jet climbed to 10,900 feet within four minutes but then began a steep descent and stopped transmitting data 21 seconds later, according to tracking website FlightRadar24.
“There has been a lot of noise made about the speed of its final descent,” said Geoff Dell, an air accident investigation expert based in Australia. “It is indicative of what happened but why it happened is still in many ways a guess really. There are multiple ways you can get an aeroplane to go down at that pace.”
He said investigators would look into factors including mechanical failure, pilot actions, maintenance records, weather conditions and whether there was any unlawful interference with the plane. Most air accidents are caused by a combination of factors that can take months to establish.

Sriwijaya’s operating record will also be placed under scrutiny.

“Its safety record has been mixed,” said Greg Waldron, Asia managing editor at industry publication FlightGlobal. He said the airline had written off four 737s between 2008 and 2017 due to bad landings that resulted in runway overruns, including one in 2008 that led to one death and 14 injuries.

The airline in late 2019 ended a year-long partnership with national carrier Garuda Indonesia and had been operating independently.


Just before ending the pact, more than half of Sriwijaya’s fleet had been grounded by the Transportation Ministry due to airworthiness concerns, according to media reports at the time.

Sriwijaya did not respond immediately to a request for comment. The airline’s chief executive said on Saturday the plane that crashed was in good condition.

Like other Indonesian carriers, Sriwijaya had slashed its flight schedule during the COVID-19 pandemic, which experts said will be examined as part of the investigation.

“The challenges that the pandemic brings impacts aviation safety,” said Chappy Hakim, an Indonesian aviation analyst and former air force official. “For instance, pilots/technicians were downsized, salaries not paid in full, planes are grounded.”

Reporting by Jamie Freed in Sydney and Stanley Widianto in Jakarta; Additional reporting by Matthew Tostevin in Bangkok; Editing by William Mallard, Frances Kerry and Raju Gopalakrishnan



There is a lot to be fixed, A LOT!!! the Rates is quite worrysome, not only in our Commercial sector but in Government owned institution like military, Police and other agency there is lot to be fixed.
 

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JANUARY 10, 20213:12 PMUPDATED 11 HOURS AGO

Sriwijaya Air crash places Indonesia's aviation safety under fresh spotlight​

By Jamie Freed, Stanley Widianto

SYDNEY/JAKARTA (Reuters) - Indonesia’s poor air safety record is again in the spotlight after a Sriwijaya Air jet carrying 62 people crashed into the Java Sea minutes after take-off on Saturday, marking the country’s third major airline crash in just over six years.



An Indonesian Air Force pilots work in the cockpit during an aerial search for the Sriwijaya Air SJ-182, which crashed to the sea, in Jakarta, Indonesia, January 10, 2021. REUTERS/Willy Kurniawan
There has been no word of any survivors.
Before the crash, there had been 697 fatalities in Indonesia over the last decade including military and private planes, making it the deadliest aviation market in the world - ahead of Russia, Iran and Pakistan - according to Aviation Safety Network’s database.
The crash of the Sriwijaya flight, operated by a Boeing Co 737-500, follows the loss of a Lion Air 737 MAX in October 2018, which contributed to a global grounding of the model.
The Lion Air crash, which killed 189 people, was an outlier in that it mainly revealed fundamental issues with the plane model and triggered a worldwide safety crisis for Boeing. Even excluding the deaths from that crash, Indonesia would rank above Russia if there are no survivors from Saturday’s crash.
ADVERTISEMENT

Indonesia, an archipelago of thousands of islands, is highly dependent on air travel and its safety issues illustrate the challenge relatively new carriers face as they try to keep pace with unstoppable demand for air travel in developing nations while striving for standards that mature markets took decades to reach.
From 2007 to 2018, the European Union banned Indonesian airlines following a series of crashes and reports of deteriorating oversight and maintenance. The United States lowered its Indonesia safety evaluation to Category 2, meaning its regulatory system was inadequate, between 2007 and 2016.
Indonesia’s air safety record has improved in recent years, receiving a favourable evaluation by the United Nations aviation agency in 2018. But in a country with a large death toll from vehicle and ferry accidents, the safety culture is battling against a mindset that makes it inevitable for some crashes to occur, experts said.
Saturday’s “crash has nothing to do with the MAX, but Boeing would do well to guide Indonesia - which has a chequered air safety record - to restore confidence in its aviation industry,” said Shukor Yusof, the head of Malaysia-based aviation consultancy Endau Analytics.



Authorities located the Sriwijaya jet’s flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder on Sunday but experts said it was too early to determine the factors responsible for the crash of the nearly 27-year-old plane.
The flight took off from Jakarta’s Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, the same airport from which the Lion Air jet took off and soon crashed into the sea. The Sriwijaya jet climbed to 10,900 feet within four minutes but then began a steep descent and stopped transmitting data 21 seconds later, according to tracking website FlightRadar24.
“There has been a lot of noise made about the speed of its final descent,” said Geoff Dell, an air accident investigation expert based in Australia. “It is indicative of what happened but why it happened is still in many ways a guess really. There are multiple ways you can get an aeroplane to go down at that pace.”
He said investigators would look into factors including mechanical failure, pilot actions, maintenance records, weather conditions and whether there was any unlawful interference with the plane. Most air accidents are caused by a combination of factors that can take months to establish.

Sriwijaya’s operating record will also be placed under scrutiny.

“Its safety record has been mixed,” said Greg Waldron, Asia managing editor at industry publication FlightGlobal. He said the airline had written off four 737s between 2008 and 2017 due to bad landings that resulted in runway overruns, including one in 2008 that led to one death and 14 injuries.

The airline in late 2019 ended a year-long partnership with national carrier Garuda Indonesia and had been operating independently.


Just before ending the pact, more than half of Sriwijaya’s fleet had been grounded by the Transportation Ministry due to airworthiness concerns, according to media reports at the time.

Sriwijaya did not respond immediately to a request for comment. The airline’s chief executive said on Saturday the plane that crashed was in good condition.

Like other Indonesian carriers, Sriwijaya had slashed its flight schedule during the COVID-19 pandemic, which experts said will be examined as part of the investigation.

“The challenges that the pandemic brings impacts aviation safety,” said Chappy Hakim, an Indonesian aviation analyst and former air force official. “For instance, pilots/technicians were downsized, salaries not paid in full, planes are grounded.”

Reporting by Jamie Freed in Sydney and Stanley Widianto in Jakarta; Additional reporting by Matthew Tostevin in Bangkok; Editing by William Mallard, Frances Kerry and Raju Gopalakrishnan


To paraphrasing the whole article above will be, "Boeing is Great" and "We at Reuters took some donation from Boeing". It is very sad how even what formerly very credible finance news agency such as Reuters end up in the same wagon train as the others media.

As much as I admit that the most likely cause of this accident were the result of poor technical maintenance of the plane. The typical narrative undertone of Boeing and whichever media they have under their payroll has always been that non-western (read : non-white dominated) is always at fault whenever their product was involved in major accident.
 

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I wouldn't say that the article is pro-Boeing, if anything it just re-highlights longstanding issues that this country has had in regards to the aviation industry.
 

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I wouldn't say that the article is pro-Boeing, if anything it just re-highlights longstanding issues that this country has had in regards to the aviation industry.

Military and civillian alike, there is something wrong at fundamental levels
 
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