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The United States has already imposed CAATSA sanctions on Turkey for buying Russian S-400s. Does Indonesia dare to take the risk to buy Russian SU35 and ask for CAATSA waivers.

 

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Well that Turks sanction may further erect the US embargo "phobia" to some people.
Time to place a bet on Rafale? 😄
 

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I don't like Korean that much... Seems to me they are using our money to develop their tech... All the fuss about changbogo class made me felt 'suudzhon' towards them... Better switch to the Turks...

Yeah I mean more about the model, approach a competent country on something as far as possible that is not one of the biggest ones (US, Russia, China).

Turkey is good fit for this (for INA) for number of projects, but again you have to watch out for the US sanctions that can come their way too like the T-129 engine thing with Pakistan.

This is of course I mean concerning joint-dev projects to whatever degree. Buying off shelf stuff, Indonesia should have no real issue....it has intrinsic wariness building up w.r.t Russian stuff anyway (so would easily include strategic stuff US has problem with) like madokafc point out.

Hopefully this decade indian MIC also develops and matures lot more so there is options there for Indonesia acquiring and collab too.
 

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I've got a strong feeling it they all going to get a piece of the cake one way or another (Airbus, Dassult, Boeing) although not sure about Lockheed


Well we all know there is urgent need for a more numerous & capable platform particularly at our northern border. AS I had stated earlier I strongly believe all those deals were somehow tied to trade deals. You don't buy big ticket article without some kind of side deals in other sector, thus the need to buy from multiple vendors


Well that is the Billion $ question, isn't it?

Well that Turks sanction may further erect the US embargo "phobia" to some people.
Time to place a bet on Rafale? 😄

Thanks for the answer mr @trishna_amrta,

Yet again, its make clear why rafale still get a big portion of fighter acqusition 😂
 

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Dedicated ground attack aircraft, well they had decent Air to air defense
oh wow, sukro will be our "half-dedicated ground bomber" fleet, since each aircraft can carry about 18 250kg bomb, i hope in the near future there will be guided bomb for tni
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The seduction appears to have worked. The U.A.E. has spent billions on American jets and weapons systems, and visitors to M.B.Z.’s office say they still see stacks of military magazines there. In the early 1990s, M.B.Z. told Richard Clarke, then an assistant secretary of state, that he wanted to buy the F-16 fighter jet. Clarke replied that he must mean the F-16A, the model the Pentagon sold to American allies. M.B.Z. said no, he wanted a newer model he’d read about in Aviation Week, with an advanced radar-and-weapons system. Clarke told him that that model didn’t exist yet; the military hadn’t done the necessary research and development. M.B.Z. said he would pay for the R. & D. himself. The subsequent negotiations went on for years, and though M.B.Z.’s hardball tactics angered some Pentagon brass, “he ended up with a better F-16 than the U.S. Air Force had,” Clarke says. In the decades to come, M.B.Z. would make clear that if the United States military refused to accommodate him, he would be perfectly happy to shop elsewhere — even in China, which has sold inexpensive drones to the Emirati military in recent years. Still, the United States remained his most important relationship by far.

Hurang Kaya 💰💰
 

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Its still viable and in full combat service. Still posses a termendous deterence aspect
Deterrence to who? Our immediate neighbors have far superior BVR capability and the PLAAF operates the same aircraft along with copies that are arguably much more advanced than the Su-30s we currently operate.
 

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