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does that Type 054 passing through our territorial water or EEZ?
 

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Oh boy...
Can someone please give us some bocoran?
 
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Oh boy...
Can someone please give us some bocoran?

If we decided to buy F-15 at least ask the U.S. to give us F-15EX. USAF claim that F-15EX has estimated service life of about 20,000 flight hours. That would give a lot of bang for our buck.

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"The F-15EX is rated for an impressive 20,000 flight hours, a pre-production estimate that has never been matched by any other modern-day fighter.

For a variety of reasons, the average life span of a jet fighter, even after service life-extension programs, is less than 10,000 hours. The most heavily flown F-16s are just beginning to cross that threshold, and the average age of the F-16 fleet is 30 years, which means a fighter with a life span of 20,000-hours could be flying for more than 60 years."


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Oh boy...
Can someone please give us some bocoran?
I'm too tired of this cliffhanging situation. I don't even care now are F-5s will be replaced or not, just blew that away from my mind. As I said before, my prediction, our major arms acquisitions will involving DEFEND ID. Just my thought, possibly wrong, I'm not a f*cking so-called prophet.
 
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I'm too tired of this cliffhanging situation. I don't even care now are F-5s will be replaced or not, just blew that away from my mind. As I said before, my prediction, our major arms acquisitions will involving DEFEND ID. Just my thought, possibly wrong, I'm not a f*cking so-called prophet.
What is this defend id actually?
 

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If we decided to buy F-15 at least ask the U.S. to give us F-15EX. USAF claim that F-15EX has estimated service life of about 20,000 flight hours. That would give a lot of bang for our buck.

Some quotes :

"The F-15EX is rated for an impressive 20,000 flight hours, a pre-production estimate that has never been matched by any other modern-day fighter.

For a variety of reasons, the average life span of a jet fighter, even after service life-extension programs, is less than 10,000 hours. The most heavily flown F-16s are just beginning to cross that threshold, and the average age of the F-16 fleet is 30 years, which means a fighter with a life span of 20,000-hours could be flying for more than 60 years."


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We can ask, of course. But Boeing's priority is to deliver F-15EX to the USAF first. Of the first batch production, two will be delivered in the first quarter of this year while the remaining six will be gradually delivered until 2023. All in all they're going to produce 144 F-15EX.

Even as a fan of F-15EX, I acknowledge that it's a slim chance that this newest Eagle variant will be offered to Indonesia. Even if it is, it probably will take much longer to materialize than Rafale.

What's more likely is that the US is offering their refurbished F-15Es to us. Those are still capable fighters although obviously not as advanced as the EX.
 

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Still hoping a miracle for us to take F15+F16 instead even though I know it's next to impossible.
 

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We can ask, of course. But Boeing's priority is to deliver F-15EX to the USAF first. Of the first batch production, two will be delivered in the first quarter of this year while the remaining six will be gradually delivered until 2023. All in all they're going to produce 144 F-15EX.

Even as a fan of F-15EX, I acknowledge that it's a slim chance that this newest Eagle variant will be offered to Indonesia. Even if it is, it probably will take much longer to materialize than Rafale.

What's more likely is that the US is offering their refurbished F-15Es to us. Those are still capable fighters although obviously not as advanced as the EX.

Refurbished F-15 as in F-15 from the boneyard? Well, that's obviously the cheapest option.

Boeing have been approaching Israel, India and the middle east to export F-15EX. So they probably have plans to add more production line if the market says so. I still see it as a possibility.

Pricewise, combat-ready F-15EX will cost around $102 million including the additional critical ECM system and a targeting pod (platform introduction, parts, logistic, etc excluded). Very competitive price with estimated service life of 20,000 flight hours (60 yrs).

Perhaps the combination of F-15EX + F-15 from the boneyard is the best option financially for us.
 

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Refurbished F-15 as in F-15 from the boneyard? Well, that's obviously the cheapest option.

Boeing have been approaching Israel, India and the middle east to export F-15EX. So they probably have plans to add more production line if the market says so. I still see it as a possibility.

Pricewise, combat-ready F-15EX will cost around $102 million including the additional critical ECM system and a targeting pod (platform introduction, parts, logistic, etc excluded). Very competitive price with estimated service life of 20,000 flight hours (60 yrs).

Perhaps the combination of F-15EX + F-15 from the boneyard is the best option financially for us.
A combination of F-15Ex + used F-16 from boneyard or from american allies country that will phassed out their F-16 and upgraded it to V standard to cut the arrival timeframe will be best though
 

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