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[neosinan]

First claimed successful replication of LK-99 Accomplished by a team at the Huazhong University of Science and Technology (from China)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686286684424691712

Scientific Papers of Korean superconductor Discovery

Consideration for the development of room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor (LK-99) -Journal of the Korean Crystal Growth and Crystal Technology | Korea Science

이 논문에서는 기존의 초전도 현상을 바라보는 물리학자들의 생각의 흐름과 한계들을 살펴보고, 통계 열역학적 액체론의 관점에서 제시한 이론적 배경을 통해 상온 상압 초전도체가 개발될 수 있음을 약술하였다. 이것이 가능 할 방안은, 전자들이 돌아다닐 수 있는 상태수가 현저히 제한되는 1-Dimension에 가까운 전자 상태이어야 한다는 것과 그 상태에 있는 전자들이 액체적 특성이 나타날 수 있을 정도로 전자-전자 상호작용이 빈번한 상태이어야 한다는 것이다. 이러한 실행 예로서 우연한 기회에 실마리를 얻어 수많은 실험으로 구조를...

koreascience.or.kr

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2307/2307.12037.pdf

Edit: There is another replication again It is from China, Western researcher I follow at least need a day or two.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686363900651151360

It looks like Berkley simulation also confirms but it is not succesful replication of LK99 but it is simulation.

Lawrence Berkeley Lab Simulations Support Lk-99 Superconductor – NextBigFuture.com

www.nextbigfuture.com

 

[No Name]

Can someone explain how this discovery will help countries like Turkey, India, and China?

I know that it will make things cheaper but can it also make it easier to produce chips by needing less advanced tools and equipment? will it break up the ASML monopoly?

 

[neosinan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684618911969370112

Can someone explain how this discovery will help countries like Turkey, India, and China?

I know that it will make things cheaper but can it also make it easier to produce chips by needing less advanced tools and equipment? will it break up the ASML monopoly?

 

[No Name]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684618911969370112

yes, but will this be something that only the US can get or will other countries be able to develop their own quantum technology? or will the ASML monopoly stay?

 

[neosinan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684020175215927296

This might still be strong diamagnetism.

This is not a superconductor in my opinion. Superconductors operating at liquid nitrogen temperature don't seem to react like that in a magnetic field. It is more likely to be a strong dimagnet.

On the other hand, even with a strong dimagnet, I'm sure it will find enough application. So they will get a lot for the money they spend on this research.

Yeah, a diamagnet this strong and this easy to produce is a big discovery.

Here is a video showing flux pinning proprety of LK99. Flux pinning only occurs in Super conductive materials.

https://www.douyin.com/video/7263715495256378659

For More detail

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687740396691185664

 

[Darth micky mouse]

The TOGG car according to news broadcasting has sold some 1400 pieces since 3 month and this month 627 pieces.

For TOGG to get to break even point it needs to sell some 50.000 pieces in one month.

I think this is another economical disaster from the stealing islamist government in the making.

 

[neosinan]

The TOGG car according to news broadcasting has sold some 1400 pieces since 3 month and this month 627 pieces.

For TOGG to get to break even point it needs to sell some 50.000 pieces in one month.

I think this is another economical disaster from the stealing islamist government in the making.

I dont know where you got 50k number but that is not expected/projected in this decade. Current factory will have 175k annual capacity. And That number will be reached around 2026. Iirc Original target was 7k car for this year but Goverment pushed it to 20k. And In order to hit break even point, Any automative brand needs to manufacture 4 million car annually. This is a good rule of thumb. Other than Ford, All the automotive brands bankrupted at least once in their existence or They were heavily subsidized. Togg is a long term project, We the Turkish taxpayers need to subsidized for at least decade or even longer. Renault is an example for such brand, They are constantly losing money but French government keeps them a float. Jobs and Investment Automotive companies are huge, That is tax money spent well which created many highly skilled jobs for France. I hope Togg will reach 2-4 million number in the second half of 2030s, Even if We need to push a lot of tax money to this project. Manufacturing 3 million car would turn into Spain or Italian level economy. That would great success story for Turkey.

 

[uçuyorum]

I dont know where you got 50k number but that is not expected projected in this decade. Current factory will have 175k annual capacity. And That number will be reached around 2026. Iirc Original target was 7k car for this year but Goverment pushed it to 20k. And In order to hit break even point, Any automative brand needs to manufacture 4 million car annually. This is a good rule of thumb. Other than Ford, All the automotive brands bankrupted at least once in their existence or They were heavily subsidized. Togg is a long term project, We the Turkish taxpayers need to subsidized for at least decade or even longer. Renault is an example for such brand, They are constantly losing money but French government keeps them a float. Jobs and Investment Automotive companies are huge, That is tax money spent well which created many highly skilled jobs for France. I hope Togg will reach 2-4 million number in the second half of 2030s, Even if We need to push a lot of tax money to this project. Manufacturing 3 million car would turn into Spain or Italian level economy. That would great success story for Turkey.

4 million Togg a year is 200 billion usd in revenue, how can that be break even point?

 

[neosinan]

4 million Togg a year is 200 billion usd in revenue, how can that be break even point?

50k$ is not an average price of car before tax. 50-80b$ is a healty number but 100b+ is much preferable for long term profitably of an Automotive company. As someone who worked for over 5 year, this is Unfortunate reality of Automotive Industry.

 

[No Name]

In 2021 4,000 electric cars were sold in Turkey. Assuming the same number of cars are sold again then that would mean TOGG has managed to get a 35% share of the marketplace with its 1,400. That is extremely good for a company that has only been selling for 3 months.

For wondering the number of electric and hybrid cars in Turkey is 44,291 which means that TOGG makes up 3.16% of all-electric and hybrid cars, currently less than 1% of all Turkish cars are electric or hybrid cars thus giving TOGG and the electric car market lots of room to grow in the future.

Also, can someone answer my question about whether or not room LK-99 will effect the ASML monopoly on semiconductor technology?

 

[B_A]

In 2021 4,000 electric cars were sold in Turkey. Assuming the same number of cars are sold again then that would mean TOGG has managed to get a 35% share of the marketplace with its 1,400. That is extremely good for a company that has only been selling for 3 months.

For wondering the number of electric and hybrid cars in Turkey is 44,291 which means that TOGG makes up 3.16% of all-electric and hybrid cars, currently less than 1% of all Turkish cars are electric or hybrid cars thus giving TOGG and the electric car market lots of room to grow in the future.

Also, can someone answer my question about whether or not room LK-99 will effect the ASML monopoly on semiconductor technology?

not room

Another American/East ASian promotion to boost the stock...They do these things every year.

Süper iletken iddiaları yatırımcıları çılgına çevirdi ancak bilim dünyası şüpheci

Geçtiğimiz hafta LK-99 olarak adlandırılan bir süper iletken malzeme geliştirildiği iddia edildi. Bu iddialar yatırımcıları çılgına çevirirken bilim camiası oldukça şüpheci.

www.donanimhaber.com

LK-99 Superconductor: From Breakthrough Hope to More Humble Reality

Experts continue to push back against extraordinary claims of a room-temperature superconductor. But even a flop could open up new pathways for materials research.

www.cnet.com

China's superconductor hype cools down after mixed experimental results - PingWest

While general public exudes excitement on breakthrough in superconductor, experts remain cautious and skeptical.

en.pingwest.com

Why it's so hard to tell if LK-99 is a room-temperature superconductor | New Scientist

Researchers have been trying to determine if a material called LK-99 really is a superconductor at room temperature and pressure. Here's what is making it so difficult

www.newscientist.com

 

[TheInsider]

It seems that China has now claimed success after scouring the recipe publicly released by Korea for hidden know-how and processes. Chinese media has been praising LK99 daily, with reactions even more enthusiastic than in Korea. Even Chinese state-run media, which previously criticized Korea, is now mentioning Korea-China friendship and camaraderie - sparking interest within Korea in the reasons and context behind this. Previously, LK99 was leaked when a disgruntled employee publicly released a draft paper without permission after leaving the Korean research team. The issue is that the paper contained the recipe. The original plan was to validate it at the Korea University of Energy and Technology before releasing it publicly - at least 6 months later. For now, LK99 has been unintentionally made public. And the departed employee (Kwon Yong-wan) only knew part of the manufacturing process. Professor Kim Hyun-tak, one of the researchers, recently clarified in media interviews that "core know-how has not been exposed." However, an unverified LK99 video was released yesterday in China. There are concerned voices from Korean online communities.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687888856933347328

 

[TheInsider]

In 2021 4,000 electric cars were sold in Turkey. Assuming the same number of cars are sold again then that would mean TOGG has managed to get a 35% share of the marketplace with its 1,400. That is extremely good for a company that has only been selling for 3 months.

For wondering the number of electric and hybrid cars in Turkey is 44,291 which means that TOGG makes up 3.16% of all-electric and hybrid cars, currently less than 1% of all Turkish cars are electric or hybrid cars thus giving TOGG and the electric car market lots of room to grow in the future.

Also, can someone answer my question about whether or not room LK-99 will effect the ASML monopoly on semiconductor technology?

In the long term, ASML will lose importance. Semiconductor CPUs will be replaced by superconductor CPUs. You will see CPUs advertised with hundreds of GHz clock speeds but will have a lot fewer transistors due to the difficulty of miniaturization of new transistors.

Superconducting computing - Wikipedia

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[B_A]

50k$ is not an average price of car before tax. 50-80b$ is a healty number but 100b+ is much preferable for long term profitably of an Automotive company. As someone who worked for over 5 year, this is Unfortunate reality of Automotive Industry.

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4 million Togg a year is 200 billion usd in revenue, how can that be break even point?

The elektrik car is different from traditional car,

4 million is for traditional car, because need to produce lots fof parts

Elektrik car needs far fewer machine parts

 

[B_A]

It seems that China has now claimed success after scouring the recipe publicly released by Korea for hidden know-how and processes. Chinese media has been praising LK99 daily, with reactions even more enthusiastic than in Korea. Even Chinese state-run media, which previously criticized Korea, is now mentioning Korea-China friendship and camaraderie - sparking interest within Korea in the reasons and context behind this. Previously, LK99 was leaked when a disgruntled employee publicly released a draft paper without permission after leaving the Korean research team. The issue is that the paper contained the recipe. The original plan was to validate it at the Korea University of Energy and Technology before releasing it publicly - at least 6 months later. For now, LK99 has been unintentionally made public. And the departed employee (Kwon Yong-wan) only knew part of the manufacturing process. Professor Kim Hyun-tak, one of the researchers, recently clarified in media interviews that "core know-how has not been exposed." However, an unverified LK99 video was released yesterday in China. There are concerned voices from Korean online communities.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687888856933347328

I hope Korean can success,but CHinese JAPANESE and American didnt want it

 

[neosinan]

The elektrik car is different from traditional car,

4 million is for traditional car, because need to produce lots fof parts

Elektrik car needs far fewer machine parts

Tesla is profitable mostly thanks to carbon tax in the west, and other brands slowly started to sell their EVs so they won't be buying Tesla's carbon service any more. More İmportantly, battery cost is much higher than engine/transmission costs and Battery R&D cost is also much higher, and not to mention cost of self driving. These won't change anytime soon. I am highly skeptical to any change in break even point as a result of Electrification. But all of this is just a guess, If we see a lot of small automative brands survive in the long term (30+ years) then we can say break even point has changed. So we have to wait and see.

Tesla made US$1.5 billion from selling government-mandated carbon tax credits to legacy carmakers, mainly overseas, as well as various smaller subsidies. That's more than a quarter from its US$5.5 billion net income in 2021, forcing the SEC to mandate it report regulatory credits as a separate line item in its annual financial statement.

Tesla disclosed government credits profit only after the SEC mandated it, new documents show

Tesla made US$1.5 billion from selling government-mandated carbon tax credits to legacy carmakers, mainly overseas, as well as various smaller subsidies. That's more than a quarter from its US$5.5 billion net income in 2021, forcing the SEC to mandate it report regulatory credits as a separate...

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[Heartbang]

Y'all also skip on the fact that perfecting automobile assembly lines takes time, sometimes longer than expected.
Elon Musk bickered about how he had to constantly sleep in the Tesla factory to work out the kinks in the Model 3 rollout for like, a solid year.
That was a couple of years ago.

 

[Rodeo]

Y'all also skip on the fact that perfecting automobile assembly lines takes time, sometimes longer than expected.
Elon Musk bickered about how he had to constantly sleep in the Tesla factory to work out the kinks in the Model 3 rollout for like, a solid year.
That was a couple of years ago.

He almost bankrupted the company during the production ramp-up of Model 3(or production hell as he puts it).

The graveyard of car manufacturers are filled with the companies who couldn't figure out mass manufacturing. Musk sends rockets to outer space to colonize Mars but he says car manufacturing is at least an order of magnitude more difficult than building reusable rockets.

 

[B_A]

Tesla is profitable mostly thanks to carbon tax in the west, and other brands slowly started to sell their EVs so they won't be buying Tesla's carbon service any more. More İmportantly, battery cost is much higher than engine/transmission costs and Battery R&D cost is also much higher, and not to mention cost of self driving. These won't change anytime soon. I am highly skeptical to any change in break even point as a result of Electrification. But all of this is just a guess, If we see a lot of small automative brands survive in the long term (30+ years) then we can say break even point has changed. So we have to wait and see.

Tesla made US$1.5 billion from selling government-mandated carbon tax credits to legacy carmakers, mainly overseas, as well as various smaller subsidies. That's more than a quarter from its US$5.5 billion net income in 2021, forcing the SEC to mandate it report regulatory credits as a separate line item in its annual financial statement.

Tesla disclosed government credits profit only after the SEC mandated it, new documents show

Tesla made US$1.5 billion from selling government-mandated carbon tax credits to legacy carmakers, mainly overseas, as well as various smaller subsidies. That's more than a quarter from its US$5.5 billion net income in 2021, forcing the SEC to mandate it report regulatory credits as a separate...

www.notebookcheck.net

We can see the chinese electric car industry.Lots of new companies some success some fail.

 

[Lool]

It seems that China has now claimed success after scouring the recipe publicly released by Korea for hidden know-how and processes. Chinese media has been praising LK99 daily, with reactions even more enthusiastic than in Korea. Even Chinese state-run media, which previously criticized Korea, is now mentioning Korea-China friendship and camaraderie - sparking interest within Korea in the reasons and context behind this. Previously, LK99 was leaked when a disgruntled employee publicly released a draft paper without permission after leaving the Korean research team. The issue is that the paper contained the recipe. The original plan was to validate it at the Korea University of Energy and Technology before releasing it publicly - at least 6 months later. For now, LK99 has been unintentionally made public. And the departed employee (Kwon Yong-wan) only knew part of the manufacturing process. Professor Kim Hyun-tak, one of the researchers, recently clarified in media interviews that "core know-how has not been exposed." However, an unverified LK99 video was released yesterday in China. There are concerned voices from Korean online communities.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687888856933347328

The chinese are truly scaring me sometimes
They literally managed to achieve LK99 secret formula with only one leaked draft.... truly amazing yet scary

The Chinese, by a stroke of luck and a dis-satisfied Korean researcher, is now on the forefront of a multibillion dollar market of superconductors working at room temp. Insane tbh