Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

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Iran's regime current behavior is copy of their behavior during Iran-Iraq war. In the beginning of the war Saddam offered them to end it. But they refused and asked totally unrealistic demands.

As result for continued for another 8 years which led to 300,000 Iranian and 200,000 Iraqi deaths. In the end Iran agreed to same terms which were offered in the beginning.

This regime is genocidal and suicidal in same time.
Saddam offered a ceasefire, not peace, because he thought that he was winning. When Iran managed to push back they demanded that Saddam be removed before any peace talks could take place.

Don't forget US/Israel played both parts delivering weapons to both Iraq and Iran. The aim was to let them both bleed out and die slowly.

So when Iran demands the removal of a leader it is uncalled for but when the US and Israel make the same demands, it is justified. That, my friend, is a imperialistic mindset. White man's privilege.

You have decapitated the top brass and still no regime change. Now what?
 

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Ironically the ultraorthodox Jewish parties in Israel are not militant at all and support all peace deals even if they include territorial compromise.

Here the recent map of security zones presented by Bibi. There is a border of Israel in blue and security line in yellow. No any Greater Israel.

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There is much more ethos and pathos in authentic military insignia regarding the subject of greater Israel.
 

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Russia is constantly threatening Europe (and not just Europe)
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The German Foreign Ministry summoned Russian Ambassador to Berlin Sergey Nechayev in connection with the Russian Ministry of Defense's publication of the addresses of European drone manufacturers. The ministry announced this on the social media site X.

"Russia's direct threats against targets in Germany are an attempt to weaken our support for Ukraine and test our unity. Our response is clear: we will not be intimidated," the statement read.
You should understand and clarify the connections.
 

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Before 1967 US was rather anti-Israel than pro-Israel.
So why did the USA make a 180-degree turn from this policy?

And the question I'm really curious about is: What factor remained the same that allows them to continue this policy at the same level?

After all, even the Soviet Union collapsed during this time?
 

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You should understand and clarify the connections.
There's nothing difficult to understand here. Russia is at war with Ukraine. The goal is to occupy the country and revive the long-disintegrated USSR.
Europe, especially Eastern Europe and the former "fraternal" republics of the disintegrated USSR, see this as a danger. Remember Putin's ultimatum on the eve of the war? "NATO must withdraw its troops beyond the 1997 borders!" After the ultimatum expired, or rather, after everyone unanimously told Putin to go to hell, the Russians attacked Ukraine.
This poses a danger to all (!) countries from Russia. Therefore, to counter Russian aggression, almost all the countries mentioned support Ukraine.
That answers the first part of your question.

What do you mean by the second part of the question?
Please clarify (in the relevant thread).
 

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There is much more ethos and pathos in authentic military insignia regarding the subject of greater Israel.
Its just a personal patch of some soldier. Soldiers need some fun and troll. In my company there was a guy who had patch "tactical father" and another of his favorite football team.

Saddam offered a ceasefire, not peace, because he thought that he was winning.
You dont offer a cease fire if u are winning. Saddam obviously wanted to end the war. Only Khamenai unrealistic stubborn position led to 8 years of senseless bloodshed.

So when Iran demands the removal of a leader it is uncalled for but when the US and Israel make the same demands, it is justified. That, my friend, is a imperialistic mindset. White man's privilege.
US and Israel never made such demands. Here are the maximal US and Israel demands:

1) Stop nuclear program.
2) Stop long range ballistic missiles..
3) Stop funding terrorists around the globe.

All 3 demands would only greatly benefit Iran and Iranian people. Because tens of billions of Iranian money are spent on that useless nonsense.
 

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This is the compete Israel map:

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Here are Israeli stores selling complete Israel necklace:




There is also a very simple reason why any ideas of "Greater Israel" are totally impossible.

Israel had super high value of life. Pictures of every killed soldier are on front papers of all newspapers. A POW is national trauma. Thats why Israel goes to war only when there is no other choice. We are not Russia, which can easily sacrifice 20,000 people in order to take some tiny town in Ukraine and no one in Russia cares.
1) If this is Israel, what is the status of millions of Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza? Are you planning to give them citizenship?

2) If this is Israel, why Daniela Weiss says "It's 3,000 kilometers (1,864 miles) – almost as big as the Sahara desert". You earlier claimed that nobody has any idea of greater Israel. Is Daniela Weiss, Smotrich, Ben Gvir and their kind considered "nobody" in Israel or are they part of the coalition running the country at the moment?
 

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Its just a personal patch of some soldier. Soldiers need some fun and troll. In my company there was a guy who had patch "tactical father" and another of his favorite football team.


You dont offer a cease fire if u are winning. Saddam obviously wanted to end the war. Only Khamenai unrealistic stubborn position led to 8 years of senseless bloodshed.


US and Israel never made such demands. Here are the maximal US and Israel demands:

1) Stop nuclear program.
2) Stop long range ballistic missiles..
3) Stop funding terrorists around the globe.

All 3 demands would only greatly benefit Iran and Iranian people. Because tens of billions of Iranian money are spent on that useless nonsense.
I get it. You want to downplay the patch. However, in the context of everything that is going on, the patch becomes a potent symbol of Israeli foreign and domestic policy.


Netanyahu sees it differently!

He wants a regime change otherwise why kill off the top brass?
 

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1) If this is Israel, what is the status of millions of Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza? Are you planning to give them citizenship?
Continue current status quo, when they live in their Palestinian Autonomy.

2) If this is Israel, why Daniela Weiss says "It's 3,000 kilometers (1,864 miles) – almost as big as the Sahara desert". You earlier claimed that nobody has any idea of greater Israel. Is Daniela Weiss, Smotrich, Ben Gvir and their kind considered "nobody" in Israel or are they part of the coalition running the country at the moment?
Daniela Weiss is no one, just very old woman.

Once again: under the right wing government Israel shrank 3 times. Since there was peace agreement with Egypt and Jordan Israel never made any kind attack against them.

He wants a regime change otherwise why kill off the top brass?
Sure he wants a regime change, Just like any sane person in the world wants that crazy regime in Iran would change.

But it never was a condition in negotiations, because its totally unrealistic.
 

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So why did the USA make a 180-degree turn from this policy?

And the question I'm really curious about is: What factor remained the same that allows them to continue this policy at the same level?

After all, even the Soviet Union collapsed during this time?
There was bi 180-degree turn. US maintained excellent relationships with Arab and Muslim countries after 1967.

Simply they saw that Israel is strongest military power in ME and it could be a good ally. Both sides benefit from this relationships. US gives Israel some weapons which would otherwise collect dust in stores. And in return US gets:

- Battle test of weapons.
- Battle experience and military tactics.
- Military Intelligence
- Weapon improvements and technologies.
- Advertisement of its weapons.
- Can be used as powerful ally in war.

Anyone who wants to have a strong military must learn from Israel, whether he likes it or not.
 

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Continue current status quo, when they live in their Palestinian Autonomy.
So, to which state do these people belong to?

Daniela Weiss is no one, just very old woman.
She was a mayor for 11 years, founder of Nachala, one of the leaders of the Hilltop Youth, was allowed&escorted by the IDF in Gaza to inspect potential new settlements in November 2024, she was nominated to Nobel Peace Prize by two professors in 2025. Despite all the criminal charges, she never went to prison.

Lying has a purpose and that is to make people believe. You shouldn't lie when the truth is very obvious. This behaviour causes anti-semitism.
 

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Weird, some Danish news says ceasefire extended few days.

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