TR Land Vehicle Programs

[Tornadoss]

Otokar Arma entered Service with Yener Mine Detection System, do we also rely on foreign Engines for Arma ?

ASELSAN's Yener GPR Entered the Inventory with OTOKAR ARMA | TURDEF

ASELSAN's GPR and Otokar's ARMA 8x8 vehicle entered the inventory for the first time in Turkiye with YENER Modern Mine Detection System project.

www.turdef.com

AFaik it's just 1 system. Anda afaik there was one Arma of Gendarmerie maybe for the test purpose.
Arma is using Caterpillar C9 engine according to sources. On the other hand Arma II is using Ford-Otoson Ecotorq engine.

 

[Huelague]

Black Goat? assembling with parts from all over the world except from home and then beeing labeled as such ? Good!
If you could plz tell me how % of the Tulpar is from Türkiye, then i will apologize ofc

Algeria ordered 200 vehicles. Forget which ones (Cobra II?)

 

[Stimpy75]

Morocco Orders 200 Cobra II Armored Vehicles From Otokar

The Royal Moroccan Armed Forces (FAR) recently ordered 200 COBRA II armored vehicles from Turkey's leading ground system manufacturer, Otokar.

www.overtdefense.com

 

[Huelague]

Morocco Orders 200 Cobra II Armored Vehicles From Otokar

The Royal Moroccan Armed Forces (FAR) recently ordered 200 COBRA II armored vehicles from Turkey's leading ground system manufacturer, Otokar.

www.overtdefense.com

Right.

 

[TheInsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750069734006022285

Interesting briefing at #IAV24 about how German thinking is influencing the next generation main battle tank for the MGCS project.
Potential features:
Weight reduction to 50 tonnes - more compact design
Mobility, mobility, mobility - high power to weight ratio
System of systems approach - common platform with different types including gun tank, missile launcher, and uncrewed air defence wingman
Likely to have a larger gun - 130 mm / 140 mm and capacity to fire NLOS ATGMs
Uncrewed turret Three-person crew located in the hull
Integral APS / SHORAD capability
Hybrid electric drive with 1,800 hp
Passive and Reactive protection
Front-mounted engine
Conceptual illustration shows possible layout. Interesting that MGCS and Abrams X follow T-14 configuration.
One thing seems certain: crewed turrets are finished.

 

[Sanchez]

Leonardo Hitfact MK2 that can carry a 105mm or a 120mm gun to be added to Tulpar. Interesting pick that is not a Cockerill for once.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753384803880026582

 

[Sanchez]

Leonardo Hitfact MK2 that can carry a 105mm or a 120mm gun to be added to Tulpar. Interesting pick that is not a Cockerill for once.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753384803880026582

Welp, here it is. Looks to me like it's the 120mm gun, can't be certain tho. If it is, this would be the first Turkish IFV with a 120mm gun.

 

[Fairon]

Welp, here it is. Looks to me like it's the 120mm gun, can't be certain tho. If it is, this would be the first Turkish IFV with a 120mm gun.

Turkish Marines are probably drooling right now.

I wonder can Otokar also be able to integrate this turret to Arma 2 as well. It looks beefy enough.(Arma 2)

 

[Sanchez]

I absolutely do not think army or navy would get an AFV with a foreign turret after all this. This is either for an ongoing tender or it will be marketed in the future.

It does look pretty awesome tho.

 

[Stimpy75]

Oh look.... The percentage of made in Türkiye? 3-4 % is my guess and I am sure it's quite cheap (not!)
And before the Otokar chill come wining, for export, quite good vehicle but for TSK, never ever.... Which imho is good thing

 

[Sanchez]

Oh look.... The percentage of made in Türkiye? 3-4 % is my guess and I am sure it's quite cheap (not!)
And before the Otokar chill come wining, for export, quite good vehicle but for TSK, never ever.... Which imho is good thing

Do we have figures to compare vs others? I don't think we do.

 

[dBSPL]

Turkish Marines are probably drooling right now.

I wonder can Otokar also be able to integrate this turret to Arma 2 as well. It looks beefy enough.(Arma 2)

Bro, if you ask me, the Amphibious Group Command needs to be revised first. I mean, mostly about Amphibious Marine Brigade. It would be great if the Marines could create their own armored brigade. Then the preparation of the platforms to be acquired would be the easiest phase, given our current progress in land systems. As our force projection evolves dramatically from coast-to-coast to intercontinental capability, a detached division or corps of amphibious unit can play crucial roles in protecting these vision.

 

[Sanchez]

Bro, if you ask me, the Amphibious Group Command needs to be revised first. I mean, mostly about Amphibious Marine Brigade. It would be great if the Marines could create their own armored brigade. Then the preparation of the platforms to be acquired would be the easiest phase, given our current progress in land systems. As our force projection evolves dramatically from coast-to-coast to intercontinental capability, a detached division or corps of amphibious unit can play crucial roles in protecting these vision.

Even if we did none of that, size of the brigade needs to be increased. We used to have 4 LSTs and 30 landing ships. We now have an LHD that can carry a full battalion and all of its support group itself. Only 27 MAVs for marines is a crime.

 

[UkroTurk]

I am hundred percent sure , Turkish Land Forces wouldn't procure 105mm cal since the gun is rifled which causes troubles in the dirty battlefield. They would go for smooth bore 120mm if they wanted Medium weight tanks.

On the other hand,
İf there were a demand from Turkish Army, Otokar could easily copy the turret as they did with the German 30mm turret.

 

[dBSPL]

Even if we did none of that, size of the brigade needs to be increased. We used to have 4 LSTs and 30 landing ships. We now have an LHD that can carry a full battalion and all of its support group itself. Only 27 MAVs for marines is a crime.

In addition, 1 more LHD coming, while the old landing crafts built in Taşkızak and Gölcük will probably be replaced with higher capacity, 151 class derivative LCTs. This will be followed by the continuation of the Bayraktar class LSTs. So, it will not be a big deal for the navy to move almost a division sized units from one site to another with one go.

This is actually a very serious force multiplier, but it is possible to strengthen it even more by redesigning the organization within the force command. Maybe not an independent command like the USAF Marine Corps, but whether we need to think an amphibious naval force capable of independently conducting any operation on its own, I mean at least division size, I think that should be one of the more frequently discussed topics among defense enthusiasts and intellectuals. This force structure could have an important peace time functions, especially in undertaking overseas missions. I don't mean that we should build an army and let it laid in Foça.

In the past, foreign dependence on almost all armored vehicles, engineering and air defense systems, starting with battle tanks, was at a critical level. There is no such prohibitive situation now. In short, I am of the opinion that it is a necessity for the naval forces to have their own armored units, not only in terms of national security and Turkish interests, but also in terms of further developing our industrial capabilities. I can bet with anyone that if the Turkish naval forces were to have such a structure, all the systems developed to equip this military units would sell like hot cakes in the foreign market.

 

[Kartal1]

Bro, if you ask me, the Amphibious Group Command needs to be revised first. I mean, mostly about Amphibious Marine Brigade. It would be great if the Marines could create their own armored brigade. Then the preparation of the platforms to be acquired would be the easiest phase, given our current progress in land systems. As our force projection evolves dramatically from coast-to-coast to intercontinental capability, a detached division or corps of amphibious unit can play crucial roles in protecting these vision.

And if you ask me, not only the Amphibious Group Command needs to be revised, but also the Land Forces Command needs restructuring. While we talk about these two there are also other structures within TSK that needs revising in order to work in the best way possible.

The structure of TSK needs "modernizing" to meet the requirements of the new concepts, doctrines and capabilities that are introduced.

 

[Sanchez]

As I thought, this was from World Defense Show Riyadh preparations. Expect nice quality images starting from tomorrow. Let's see if Saudis are interested in it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753431962746769510

 

[Sanchez]

New Pars Alpha 8x8(I think it's the Pars X from few months back) is to be officially unveiled next month at WDS Riyadh 2024.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1745804548118049213

Direct competitor to Boxer incoming?

And here it is.

FNSS Pars Alpha with Teber 35 with 1x OMTAS ATGM on both sides of the turret!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753736720967684490

 

[Kartal1]

And here it is.

FNSS Pars Alpha with Teber 35 with 1x OMTAS ATGM on both sides of the turret!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753736720967684490

Man, it looks so good!

 

[Tornadoss]

And here it is.

FNSS Pars Alpha with Teber 35 with 1x OMTAS ATGM on both sides of the turret!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753736720967684490

Is new Pars modular as Boxer?