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I dont get it why is the stray dog problem tied to politics or even ideology?
Actually, it isn't. Its all about money.

Under the guise of "animal rights" a massive racket is going on.
Various animal rights associations use the stray dogs to collect donations from people, then use that money for embezzlement/money laundering/supporting terrorists.
The amount of money that is in this racket is estimated to be 12 billion dollars.
and the actual philanthropy they make is so sloppy and dangerous that they actually cause harm to people.
People are mauled to within an inch of their lives, contact rabies and cysts, and actually die because of them.
 

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I dont get it why is the stray dog problem tied to politics or even ideology?
PKKistan in syria is on its way to become a government and Americans are supporting it they helding elections this dog staff is just a distraction by both CHP and AKP to hide their screw ups in Syria. since people will start asking Generals were right all along you politicians ruined turkey's geopolitics and created 2 kurdistan in iraq and syria and yes i also blame CHP as well
 

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PKKistan in syria is on its way to become a government and Americans are supporting it they helding elections this dog staff is just a distraction by both CHP and AKP to hide their screw ups in Syria. since people will start asking Generals were right all along you politicians ruined turkey's geopolitics and created 2 kurdistan in iraq and syria and yes i also blame CHP as well

I dont think anybody wants to get torn apart by a pack of dogs regardless of the geopolitical situation.
 

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Actually, it isn't. Its all about money.

Under the guise of "animal rights" a massive racket is going on.
Various animal rights associations use the stray dogs to collect donations from people, then use that money for embezzlement/money laundering/supporting terrorists.
The amount of money that is in this racket is estimated to be 12 billion dollars.
and the actual philanthropy they make is so sloppy and dangerous that they actually cause harm to people.
People are mauled to within an inch of their lives, contact rabies and cysts, and actually die because of them.

I argued with these wackos on instagram.

They called me a murderer because I come from Australia. Because we cull camels, feral cats and feral dogs due to the damage they cause to the habitat as introduced species.
 

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I dont think anybody wants to get torn apart by a pack of dogs regardless of the geopolitical situation.
the news that PKK in Syria held an election and on its way to become a government should be number 1 news in our country the reasons that the political class pumping this worthless and easy to solve topics is to hide that screw up and distract the public
 

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I dont get it why is the stray dog problem tied to politics or even ideology?
The problem isnt in politics per say but in the law

The animal rights organisations within Turkey are known to be common sites for money laundering money amounting to billions of dollars annually and god knows where on earth does this money go

The number of stray, violent, dogs have been on a steep rise in Turkey causing an annual increase in the number of Turks getting bitten to death right on the streets which caused the people to protest that the govt isnt doing shit. The govt, in order to quell the rising dissatisfaction, proposed a bill to kill or isolate such violent dogs; only for CHP, DEM, iYi parliamentary members to start staging protests against the bill claiming that it harms animal rights within Turkey

Summary: Many within the CHP, iYi, or DEM are either directly involved or indirectly related to the money laundering pf billions of dollars through animal rights institutions and they are violently trying to stop thr bill to protect their interests. I would say some in the AKP are involved as well but since Erdogan already decided on the course of action they will take regarding the issue, they are keeping their mouths shut or they will be rooted out

All in all, it just shows how much corruption is going on within the political parties within Turkey
 

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The CHP proves again just how dangerous they are to Turkish territorial integrity. Recently, a spike in the number of videos showing ppl in Istanbul singing PKK slogans and now they mention that the blue homeland is a "fairytale". Turkish rights in the sea are being discarded for a few votes and funding from the Wetsern colonialists.

I wont be surprised if they agreed to form an autonomous Kurdistam within Turkey


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Foreign policy advisor of Özgür Özel and CHP Deputy Namık Tan used the expression 'Fairytale' for the Blue Homeland.

 

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The CHP proves again just how dangerous they are to Turkish territorial integrity. Recently, a spike in the number of videos showing ppl in Istanbul singing PKK slogans and now they mention that the blue homeland is a "fairytale". Turkish rights in the sea are being discarded for a few votes and funding from the Wetsern colonialists.

I wont be surprised if they agreed to form an autonomous Kurdistam within Turkey


Translation:
Foreign policy advisor of Özgür Özel and CHP Deputy Namık Tan used the expression 'Fairytale' for the Blue Homeland.

As our Great Leader once said: Ben lafa değil icraate bakarım.
Number of the times current Turkish government ordered natural gas search activity outside of the Turkish borders drawn in the Sevilla Map: 0
Number of Turkish natural gas search ships currently operating in Mediterranean: 0
Number of Turkish natural gas drill ships currently operating in Mediterranean: 0

Alternative to CHP isn't working for Turkey's interests, they are just getting vote by making propaganda using our national interest while working opposite of our national interests.
 

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As our Great Leader once said: Ben lafa değil icraate bakarım.
Which was exactly Tan's point btw.

From CHP's presser today:

"In this context, we share with the public the following important observations and warnings regarding the concept of the Blue Homeland, which the government only remembers during election periods and uses as a domestic policy material. Our retired admirals, who are the product of decades of labor and have made indescribable contributions to the creation of the Blue Homeland concept, were unjustly detained and prosecuted for their rightful warnings about the Montreux Convention before the Russian Federation-Ukraine war, and even went so far as to ban them from entering military houses. A great injustice and disloyalty was done to them. No research or drilling activities have been carried out in the Eastern Mediterranean for four years. The decision was taken to send the research vessels that could not operate in the Mediterranean to Somalia, and it is understood that these studies will not be carried out in the Eastern Mediterranean.

In the Aegean Sea, Greece's systematic harassment of our fishermen remains unanswered. Fishing activities of fishing vessels belonging to third states are allowed in our maritime jurisdiction in the Eastern Mediterranean. There is no reaction to the armament of non-militarized islands in the Aegean Sea and the seizure of disputed islands and islets by Greece.
Contrary to popular belief, no Exclusive Economic Zone has yet been declared in the Eastern Mediterranean. As of 2019, the name of the Blue Homeland Exercise, which was announced to be conducted annually, has been changed.

The concept of the Blue Homeland cannot be used as a material for hamaset/jingoism. As we have stated, CHP has always defended the protection of the Republic of Turkey's legitimate rights and interests in the seas within the framework of the rights arising from international law. And for us, Blue Homeland means not taking a single step back from our legitimate interests in the Black Sea, the Aegean Sea and the Mediterranean."

 

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It is to be expected when you butcher whole entire nation Economically, socially, culturally, militarily, politically spiritually and morally. Average Joe in Türkiye has absolutely nothing to look forward to and I mean absolutely nothing.. if you say other wise, you either don’t have children or you love a certain person more than your own child
 

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tough times ahead. When the mad Islamist is gone, you're next choice is the uncle Mehmet club that wants to sell the nation's ass to the anglo-sphere.
 

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tough times ahead. When the mad Islamist is gone, you're next choice is the uncle Mehmet club that wants to sell the nation's ass to the anglo-sphere.

World's an immense place in the end compared to Turkiye. Its always going to be tough being something super-independent as there are huge power centres outside Turkiye shaping the world.
 

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World's an immense place in the end compared to Turkiye. Its always going to be tough being something super-independent as there are huge power centres outside Turkiye shaping the world.
The World is immense compared to any Country, yours included. What Türkiye needs is a proper leader, then it doesn't matter nearly as much what power centres are forming.
 

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The World is immense compared to any Country, yours included. What Türkiye needs is a proper leader, then it doesn't matter nearly as much what power centres are forming.

Of course. Well I have two countries: India and Canada.

The stresses on Canada (basically subsumed into American one with some nominal British inertia) long played its thing since war of 1812....given the relative pop density of Canada and proxmity of 90% of it to the US, long border with the States on same continent (and vertical logistics with them compared to horizontal across Canada) and then the sheer power disparity in the 20th century reflected in immediate population terms today by about 10 times in US favour.

India is different context and size. Rawer earlier stage of development to Canada, less integrated in intensity....and a significant counter-force to all neighbours and world population outside it....china being the only 1:1 neighbourwise....and even the world enjoys maybe 6:1....when bulk of countries see ratios well in the 50:1, 100: 1 and even more etc.

Turkish one lies between the two...and then we factor in the history, sociology and geography too.

Now I have long said its overdue for another Ataturk in Turkish context today. But the situation is also different, the crucible to gestate and produce an Ataturk is different now....simply by where Turkiye has marched and developed since he staked out the republic that secured these opportunities in the first place.

So Turkish population must be cognisant to this, it is that simple. To say apply pressure on its political gentry to select say Mansur Yavas and not Kilicdaroglu to take on Erdogan/AKP.

To have its social conservatives not have AKP go down any islamism route to begin with....its easier said than done of course, these things weigh deep in social conservatives everywhere in world to begin with.

This is only way to produce process with cards you already have in your hands, rather than rely on some miracle drop or manna from heaven leadership wise.....because there are all kind of competing forces in people heads now that has coloured all politics involved these days.

The dog cannot be wagged by its tail. Turkish people must realise this. They are 90 million in end, so the pressures of the other 8 billion in the world is a larger disparity to one India faces. When it comes to religion itself to begin with, it is significant factor for Turkiye if its not careful as most Muslims live outside Turkiye and are not Turks. Simply not the case with India and Hinduism. So the basic stress from outside in vis a vis Islamist and Hindutva are quite different for Turkiye and India in that sense.
 

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