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[Titanium100]

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I am hearing most of them are bypasses wanting to move further into other countries and it is ironic that they fled Afghanistan but hang up flags elsewhere

 

[Titanium100]

this is dangerous and threatening development, never ending showing of what usa does when challenged within set up dominance, hope turkey public and politicians from all political parties will take note of content from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425105201317437447

This kind of partistan letters will only embarras these who have written it and expose the elements within the US system.

First of all they have already stopped the part sells to turkey.. All these latest drones are entirely Turkish made and second of all there is nothing called drone profileration that is entirely made up. Anyone has the rights to develope their defense as much they like this is within every countries sovereign rights including selling them to anyone of their own chosing such partistan letters will be laughed at and thrown into the garbage because it is intellectually bankrupt and just embarras them

 

[mulj]

This kind of partistan letters will only embarras these who have written it and expose the extremist elements within the US systems.

First of all they have already stopped the part sells to turkey.. All these latest drones are entirely Turkish made and second of all there is nothing called drone profileration that is entirely made up. Anyone has the rights to develope their defense as much they like this is within every countries sovereign rights including selling them to anyone of their own chosing such partistan letters will be laughed at because it is intellectually bankrupt and just embarras them

that is technicality of this particular issue but thing for concern is true nature of formal ally relations between turkey and usa, ok i know it is suspicious from both sides and double gamed, what is real issue that every move from turkey in self interest direction will be opposed and tried to be disturbed by usa, huge reason that turkish think tank put this fact for all future calculations related to the security and international relationships.

 

[Lool]

this is dangerous and threatening development, never ending showing of what usa does when challenged within set up dominance, hope turkey public and politicians from all political parties will take note of content from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425105201317437447

Trust me when I say this,
Erdo wont lose because of the opposition, he will primarily lose because the USA wants so and I assure you that Turkey's weapons program will be curbed in the future as this is the only way to appease the USA and Israel

 

[Titanium100]

that is technicality of this particular issue but thing for concern is true nature of formal ally relations between turkey and usa, ok i know it is suspicious from both sides and double gamed, what is real issue that every move from turkey in self interest direction will be opposed and tried to be disturbed by usa, huge reason that turkish think tank put this fact for all future calculations related to the security and international relationships.

That Partistan letter is nothing more than a far-right element and only embarras them nothing more even within their own government. Such things will never fly with Turkey and will be considered as attempt on their sovereignty and juvenile childish.. It is kind like meh. It will be laughed off in the US and Turkey likewise

 

[Ryder]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/p28szz

Honestly if the Afghans care so much about Afghanistan.

We can train them and make them become a merc force. Then we will send them to Afghanistan.

They wont be liberating their own country by waving a Afghan flag in a Turkish beach.

 

[Lool]

that is technicality of this particular issue but thing for concern is true nature of formal ally relations between turkey and usa, ok i know it is suspicious from both sides and double gamed, what is real issue that every move from turkey in self interest direction will be opposed and tried to be disturbed by usa, huge reason that turkish think tank put this fact for all future calculations related to the security and international relationships.

Another mistake the international community makes is that they they believe that the USA and Europe think of Turkey as an ally, which is hugely incorrect! From the time Turkey joined NATO, the only thing the west thought of Turkey is that they are the best gatekeepers and cannon fodder against Russia. It was, is, and will always be the main role of Turkey in the West's eyes. However, for such a thing to be achieved, Turkey must he wholely dependent on the West in terms of everything from food, clothing and jobs to even Weapons which is why the West believed that if Turkey was sanctioned when they intervened during the Cyprus coup, they would have learned their lesson to never say no to the west. This, according to them, may be a sign so that the Turks will bend the knee whenever they are asked to do something they dont like.

However, to the West's dismay, Turkey is actually beginning to stand on its own feet and are starting to catch up to the wsts in many fields lately

 

[Ryder]

this is dangerous and threatening development, never ending showing of what usa does when challenged within set up dominance, hope turkey public and politicians from all political parties will take note of content from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425105201317437447

Christians, Armenians and Greeks.

Why am I not surprised.

Christians cry so much about persecution in Turkey when we renovate their churches!!!

Christians cry about oppression every damn time while Muslims themselves joined in the victim olympics.

Im really getting pissed off.

Mod Edit: Refrain from cursing

 

[LegioXLupus]

A Pakistani talking about India as a failed state is the biggest irony and laughable at best

I kind of laughed at that part, you Turks don't know us Pakistanis know. They even know our history better then us apparently we are brainwashed Ataturkists.

When it comes to sexual crimes committed by illegals, after Syrians and Afghans i wont mention who it is, but there is a lot of political correctness and denial not to offend some people.

They wont be liberating their own country by waving a Afghan flag in a Turkish beach.

Simple solution, make all beaches paid for unless you have Turkish citizenship or a tourism visa. Enforce it, increase patrols lock up and send back any illegals caught.

Imagine tourists seeing this behaviour, will take years to mend image.

 

[CAN_TR]

Interesting how AKP, HDP and some IYI politicans openly "support" the refugee politics. MHP pretty much quiet about it.

Only opposing side by majority is CHP, is this a new reverse psychology attempt by the dij gücler?

 

[Ryder]

Interesting how AKP, HDP and some IYI politicans openly "support" the refugee politics. MHP pretty much quiet about it.

Only opposing side by majority is CHP, is this a new reverse psychology attempt by the dij gücler?

Tanju Ozcan has been getting some resistance from chp itself.

 

[Ryder]

CHP refugee policy is nothing more then fairytales, "Europe promised us money, we will send them back, mend ties with Assad, he will welcome them back, build homes and factories in Syria". If they ever got to power the first thing they would say is "we have human rights treaties with EU and the world we are not Arabia or Iran".

Syrian refugees are here to stay, that is the reality, i hate to say it. We need programs to integrate and assimilate them not rubbish from AKP like din kardesleri or CHP ne isimiz var sensationalism.

Only option i see is give the newer parties a chance.

Afghans seem to be more worse than Syrians that Syrians dont want Afghans

 

[TR_123456]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/p28szz

Unreal,the guts to do such a thing.

 

[Glass🚬]

Interesting how AKP, HDP and some IYI politicans openly "support" the refugee politics. MHP pretty much quiet about it.

Only opposing side by majority is CHP, is this a new reverse psychology attempt by the dij gücler?

Indeed, but the focus needs to be on the AKP and especially the leadership why they are so quiet about this. I predicted for years that the current refugee situation will already result in their loss in the next election but for some -unknown- reason the AKP doubles down on the refugee numbers, smh. Something must have happened in that biden-erdo talk.

one way another, the next election is lost for them, this is already predictable.

 

[Blood raven]

Indeed, but the focus needs to be on the AKP and especially the leadership why they are so quiet about this. I predicted for years that the current refugee situation will already result in their loss in the next election but for some -unknown- reason the AKP doubles down on the refugee numbers, smh. Something must have happened in that biden-erdo talk.

one way another, the next election is lost for them, this is already predictable.

The government gave away 110k citizenship to syrian refugees

The current ruling party wins on new votes through giving away citizenships

 

[TheInsider]

this is dangerous and threatening development, never ending showing of what usa does when challenged within set up dominance, hope turkey public and politicians from all political parties will take note of content from this tweet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425105201317437447

This is not dangerous this is desperation on their side. Be confident we don't buy anything important from the US other than engines (F-110, F-404 for TF-X and Hurjet prototypes). They can embargo those other than that they can't do shit. And if they do indeed embargo they will be embargoing TEI which is %46 owned by the US. Even COTS products like Viasat and Garmin are replaced with national ones. Even though they are COTS cant be effectively embargoed. We did that just to shut their mouths. The US will be hard-pressed to find any item to put an embargo on. The US already placed an embargo on items it can embargo like the VLS system.

 

[Nilgiri]

I will wait for @LegionnairE response (and any other true Turk nationalists replies that are interested).....

Then I might respond to this casual throwing around of terms like "Nazi" by some crypto-islamist....w.r.t this topic at large and the consistencies needed as first principle in order to do that....if it is even relevant to do so going forward.

The extreme-islamist (who made some awful degenerate replies, some of which got a like from the crypto-islamist) needs no response as he has been show the door....and his sewage-riddled posts have been deleted.

And honestly the true turk nationalists (there are quite a number of you to list, number of you with Ataturk in DP) and true bosnian nationalist @Bosanski Vojnik here are 100% correct about one of these guys and folks of that sort in general.

I am happy their warped vision and ideology gets to recede more and more by crushing reality.

I suppose that will make their voices more shrill and shrill too. Oh well.

What inevitably happens when you try to establish a civil discourse (numbers and rational facts) and these kind of people are around in the mix taking advantage of any good-faith approach given and dumping all over it to get some easy kick (because they are crap at real life lets face it), is quite disgusting.

Hope for the extreme-type sake, he is just some zoomer kid....if he is older than that, thats pretty sad to imagine.

This lunatic bitterness is just never far from them.....You defeat them in here or out there (where it counts lot more)...and it just gets worse...as they have merged ideology with their own narcissism...and reality check doesn't quite make its way to them fast enough or ever (the world is big with lot of insular spots)

I'll never forget how bunch of them got triggered in most vile way when discussing Ataturk the one time (I forgot if it was here or previous place).

Pre-Islamic Turkic culture/roots is another one that always gets them going too.

So its easy to see if thats the case as it is for Turkey to begin with, what chance of fair discussion other Civs and cultures even have with them.

Its even funnier and more ironic when they aren't even Turkish to begin with....then some launder extra flags past even their other assumed+projected identity. Talk about shameless.

Anyway I will make it clear, I am only interested in sustained dialogue on this matter with actual Turks here.

 

[Ryder]

Akp is now saying that the Turks came as refugees or immigrants to Anatolia.

Anybody going to do anything about these cucks who destroy or hijack our history??

The Seljuks came as conquerors not beggars.

 

[Anastasius]

The first Turks came to the region as explorers looking for new pastures. Later, the Byzantines invited them in as mercenaries to hold the line against Arabs and Persians. Later waves came as Turks fleeing from the Mongols, which ironically enough included other Turks among their ranks, so it was essentially Turks killing Turks at that point. But by that point, Turks were already firmly established in Anatolia, so they had a place to go. Afghans are not Turks, with the exception of minorities like Hazaras, who are actually persecuted quite hard in Afghanistan. Turkey should be willing to take them (among other Turkic minorities) in and tell the rest to get lost unless they can prove that they are legitimate refugees and not illegal migrants.

AKP's statement there reminds me an awful lot of some of the BS that Democrats in the USA spew.

 

[Ryder]

The first Turks came to the region as explorers looking for new pastures. Later, the Byzantines invited them in as mercenaries to hold the line against Arabs and Persians. Later waves came as Turks fleeing from the Mongols, which ironically enough included other Turks among their ranks, so it was essentially Turks killing Turks at that point. But by that point, Turks were already firmly established in Anatolia, so they had a place to go. Afghans are not Turks, with the exception of minorities like Hazaras, who are actually persecuted quite hard in Afghanistan. Turkey should be willing to take them (among other Turkic minorities) in and tell the rest to get lost unless they can prove that they are legitimate refugees and not illegal migrants.

AKP's statement there reminds me an awful lot of some of the BS that Democrats in the USA spew.

Ottomans fought as mercs for the various Muslim states that fought the Mongol Empire. As the Muslim states Mainly Turkic ones like the Kwarzmian Empire that fought the Mongols collapsed one by one led to the Ottomans to come to Anatolia. Basically mercs who were in service but had no choice to come to Anatolia not just to save their people but also for work as soldiers and warriors. A lot of Oghuz Turks took the Gazis thing really serious they believed they were warriors of the Faith.

Exploits of Suleyman Shah are so well known.

I find it insulting how our warrior ancestors are compared to illegal immigrants or refugees who fled from war.