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A short summary of the most important points would be nice though.
A lot of countries which one of them is more advanced than us wants to buy PD-170 engine.
PD-170 engine passed EASA test but not officially. They made the tests themselves.
TEI sell critical engine parts to major manufacturers. And half of the planes use TEI made parts in the engine.
Baykar Akıncı UAV will use PD-222 engine for the C model.
General Electric is share holder of TEI by 46% but they dont mean any threat to national projects.
General Electric is major costumer of TEI.
TEI has 5 billion $ awaiting sales.
TEI will manuacture GE-F110 engine in Turkey for TF-X.

And in the beginning, he talked about jet engines generally and he give basic information. He also said that we dont have any foreign dependency on TS-1400 TurboShaft engine.

For me biggest suprise is that we are going to produce F110 engine again. Which means later production line can be used for National MMU engine.
 
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A lot of countries which one of them is more advanced than us wants to buy PD-170 engine.
PD-170 engine passed EASA test but not officially. They made the tests themselves.
TEI sell critical engine parts to major manufacturers. And half of the planes use TEI made parts in the engine.
Baykar Akıncı UAV will use PD-222 engine for the G model.
General Electric is share holder of TEI by 46% but they dont mean any threat to national projects.
General Electric is major costumer of TEI.
TEI has 5 billion $ awaiting sales.
TEI will manuacture GE-F110 engine in Turkey for TF-X.

And in the beginning, he talked about jet engines generally and he give basic information. He also said that we dont have any foreign dependency on TS-1400 TurboShaft engine.

For me biggest suprise is that we are going to produce F110 engine again. Which later can be used for National MMU engine.
“G model” ?
 

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400hp class Vuran engine
600hp class Azra engine
1000hp class Utku engine
1500hp class Batu engine

All engine prototypes came to level of ingition. Some of them even started to power up the domestic vehicles. First ignition of Batu will be done in this year.
 
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400hp class Vuran engine
600hp class Azra engine
1000hp class Utku engine
1500hp class Batu engine

All engine prototypes came to level of ingition. Some of them even started to power up the domestic vehicles. First ignition of Batu will be done in this year.
I hear some faint crying coming from the direction of Germany..
 

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400hp class Vuran engine
600hp class Azra engine
1000hp class Utku engine
1500hp class Batu engine

All engine prototypes came to level of ingition. Some of them even started to power up the domestic vehicles. First ignition of Batu will be done in this year.

S&T Dynamics EST15K transmission is still in development, Doosan engine is also ready.

If we can combine UTKU, BATU engine with S&T transmission in the short term it would save us a lot of time if possible


 

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S&T Dynamics EST15K transmission is still in development, Doosan engine is also ready.

If we can combine UTKU, BATU engine with S&T transmission in the short term it would save us a lot of time if possible



BMC is working on the transmission, it's vital that the pair work seamlessly together - I would reject such an idea - only on the basis that it would be more of an headache getting the BMC engine to work with S&T transmission, and in the end it would not save time but pull away engineers from other tasks...
 

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1000hp UTKU turbodiesel engine test

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It's moved on alot from the early prototype image
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BMC came to end for 400hp engines. The final package of Vuran vehicles will be delivered with domestic 400hp engines.

Trials of Azra 600hp engines are proceeding. This engine will be used for tank carrier trucks and 8x8 vehicles.
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BMC came to end for 400hp engines. The final package of Vuran vehicles will be delivered with domestic 400hp engines.

Trials of Azra 600hp engines are proceeding. This engine will be used for tank carrier trucks and 8x8 vehicles.
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The BMC Vuran 4x4 in this Video, carrying the SUNGUR Air Defence System, is driving with the 400hp Vuran Engine developed by BMC Power

 

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List of some made in Turkey engines so far that are in production or to be produced soon. Not including Tümosan engines as i don't know about their status and also TFX engine.

Land Vehicle Engines :
BMC Power - 400 HP Class Vuran Engine
BMC Power - 600 HP Class Azra Engine
BMC Power - 1000 HP Class Utku Engine
BMC Power - 1500 HP Class Batu Engine

Special Purpose Aviation Engines :
TEI TJ35 - Turbojet Engine (UAV / High Speed Target Drone)
TEI TJ90 - Turbojet Engine (UAV / High Speed Target Drone)
TEI TP38 - Turboprop Engine (UAV / Target Drone)

UAV Engines :
TEI PG30 (30 HP) - 2 Stroke Gasoline Aviation Engine (UAV)
TEI PG40 (40 HP) - 2 Stroke Gasoline Aviation Engine (UAV)
TEI PG50 (50 HP) - 2 Stroke Gasoline Aviation Engine (UAV)
TEI PD170 (172 HP) - Turbodiesel Aviation Engine (MALE Class UAV)
TEI PD222 (220 HP) - Turbodiesel Aviation Engine (MALE Class UAV)

Helicopter Engine :
TEI TS1400 (1400 SHP) - Turboshaft Engine (Rotary Wing Applications)

Cruise Missile Engines :
Kale KTJ 3200 - Turbojet Engine (Stand Off Precision Guided Munition)
TEI TJ300 - Turbojet Engine (Medium Range Anti Ship Missile Engine)
 

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Great summary. Thanks but Please update your list with
  • TEI-PD-150 is a semi-domestic because It is using Mercedes engine block but It can be included into your list.
  • TEI-PD-180 (lighter than PD-170 but produces 10hp more power). This engine will be integrated to TB3.
  • KaleAero is also developing a new turbojet that is going to generate more thrust than KTJ-3200. I believe It will have a thrust range around 4kN (the name of it will be something like KTJ-4000).
  • TEI is developing a new turboshaft engine called TEI-TS-3000 that is going to generate 3000hp rotation power for Atak-2 and 12t utility helicopter.
  • TEI has developed two variant of TJ series turbojet. TJ-300 and TJ-400.
 
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Great summary. Thanks but Please update your list with
  • TEI-PD-150 is a semi-domestic because It is using Mercedes engine block but It can be included into your list.
  • TEI-PD-180 (lighter than PD-170 but produces 10hp more power). This engine will be integrated to TB3.
  • KaleAero is also developing a new turbojet that is going to generate more thrust than KTJ-3200. I believe It will have a thrust range around 4kN (the name of it will be something like KTJ-4000).
  • TEI is developing a new turboshaft engine called TEI-TS-3000 that is going to generate 3000lbf rotation power for Atak-2 and 12t utility helicopter.
  • TEI has developed two variant of TJ series turbojet. TJ-300 and TJ-400.
Thanks, I am aware of that but they are under development not under production or to be produced soon. If you want to edit or add any thing do it as you please.
 

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Thanks, I am aware of that but they are under development not under production or to be produced soon. If you want to edit or add any thing do it as you please.

I missed the "under production or to be produced soon" part. Thanks for explanation.
 

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