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[Zafer]

Since November 2022?

Recent announcement was within 30 days. No one can hold their breath since 2022.

 

[Oublious]

Since November 2022?

No, December it wa0 officially revealed as ANKA-3. In Februeary they wanted to show it but the earthquake made it not possible. Yeni Safak was the first who leaked the pictures.

TUSAŞ'ın yeni insansız savaş uçağı ANKA-3 MİUS geliyor | Savunma Sanayi Haberleri

Cumhurbaşkanı Yardımcısı Fuat Oktay, TBMM'de yaptığı konuşmada Türk Uçak Sanayii Anonim Ortaklığı'nın (TUSAŞ) devrim niteliğindeki yeni hamlesini açıkladı. "TUSAŞ’tan yeni tip insansız jet savaş uçağımız geliyor." diyen Oktay, "İnsansız hava araçlarında kabiliyetimizi daha ileri noktaya...

www.yenisafak.com

 

[Kaan Azman]

ANKA-3 MIUS tanker configuration

 

[Quasar]

ANKA-3 MIUS tanker configuration

only problem is neither F 16 nor KAAN has a Air refueling probe But Hürjet may have

 

[Merzifonlu]

only problem is neither F 16 nor KAAN has a Air refueling probe

F-16 OK but too early speak for Kaan.

 

[Quasar]

F-16 OK but too early speak for Kaan.

KAAN having a refuling probe is highly unlikly (ı am saying higly unlikly for the sake of politness) since there is no logical need to for it. first of all carring a rectractable air refueiling probe is waste of valuable space on a seeking to be a stealth plane with two engines designed to have range and future supercruise requirment which also have other ways to satisfy additional fuel need other than a a refuling probe like refueling via boom or external fuel tanks if it is necessary

 

[uçuyorum]

There needs to be a much larger version of Anka 3 to be used as tanker. F35 and F22 both have around 8300 KG of internal fuel as far as i know. A tanker not only needs to have plenty of fuel for itself to go much longer distances than the fighter its escorting without refueling itself, it needs to carry additional meaningful amount of fuel to supply the fighter its escorting. And I can't imagine Kaan having less than 10 tonnes of fuel otherwise it will stay on air for like 20 - 30 minutes. Anka 3 itself is like 7 tonnes. Only a like a twin engine version that could carry 4-5 tonnes of payload would have enough so 2 of them could give Kaan twice the range.

 

[Nutuk]

only problem is neither F 16 nor KAAN has a Air refueling probe But Hürjet may have

???

If F16 has no air refueling probe than what is Turkiye doing with 7 air refueling tankers? People should really stop spreading false knowledge.

 

[Chocopie]

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If F16 has no air refueling probe than what is Turkiye doing with 7 air refueling tankers? People should really stop spreading false knowledge.

Maybe he meant no probe-and-drogue refuelling (e.g. Eurofighter, Rafale, F/A-18).

Your picture shows the flying boom method for refuelling (e.g. F-22, F-35, F-16, F-15). So Turkish F-16s have no refuelling probe but are refueled through a „plugged in“ flying boom.

 

[Nutuk]

Maybe he meant no probe-and-drogue refuelling (e.g. Eurofighter, Rafale, F/A-18).

Your picture shows the flying boom stick method for refueling (e.g. F-22, F-35, F-16, F-15). So Turkish F-16 have no refueling probe but are refueled through a „plugged in“ flying boom.

Ah OK, indeed that must be what he meant. Thanks for clearing.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

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If F16 has no air refueling probe than what is Turkiye doing with 7 air refueling tankers? People should really stop spreading false knowledge.

He perhaps meant probe that stick out like in rafale & eurofighter . F16 , F22 , f35 have inside their body while probe have the tanker or male & female . F 16, f22 ,f35 are Female they have a hole , while Eurofighter , rafale have a .....

 

[Quasar]

Maybe he meant no probe-and-drogue refuelling (e.g. Eurofighter, Rafale, F/A-18).

Your picture shows the flying boom method for refueling (e.g. F-22, F-35, F-16, F-15). So Turkish F-16s have no refueling probe but are refueled through a „plugged in“ flying boom.

Thanks for expalining my post for the rest, unfortunatly sometimes what seems to be obvious still needs to be explained.

just a side note: works are in progress for F 35 variant for Navy with a refueling probe as seen KC-10 equipped with a HOSE (in place of the flying boom) refueling F 35

 

[Chocopie]

Thanks for expalining my post for the rest, unfortunatly sometimes what seems to be obvious still needs to be explained.

just a side note: works are in progress for F 35 variant for Navy with a refueling probe as seen KC-10 equipped with a HOSE (in place of the flying boom) refueling F 35

View attachment 59004

As a rule of thumb: most US fighter aircraft use flying boom, most European & Russian use a probe.

Just another side note:
A decade ago they also developed a refuelling probe for conformal tanks of F-16 called CARTS.

Here you can see both: the probe (conformal tank) and the markings on the back for the flying boom.

Source: https://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article4163.html

 

[Hepdert]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1676756439992508416

 

[No Name]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1676756439992508416

If the Super Şimşek meant to be Turkey's equivalent to the XQ-58 Valkyrie loyal wingman drone does that mean that the Super Şimşek will be launched the same way?

 

[Yasar_TR]

If the Super Şimşek meant to be Turkey's equivalent to the XQ-58 Valkyrie loyal wingman drone does that mean that the Super Şimşek will be launched the same way?

Super-Simsek is a weapon/drone. Valkyrie XQ-58 is a UCAV akin to our KE or Anka-3 and although it is comparatively cheaper than the main fighter aircraft it is accompanying and can be sacrificed in stead, it is not as expendably cheap as a Super-Simsek. Remember that XQ-58 can land back to its base.
In fact it would make more sense to launch the Super-Simsek with rocket assistance. I hope they do develop that technology too. Especially if it is launched from TCG Anadolu it would increase TCG Anadolu’s lethality even more. As Super-Simsek can be used in swarm mode, EW mode and as intelligence gathering mode, it can be invaluable to that ship’s defences and its attack posture.
Well! it can be launched from any of our larger ships.

EDIT

Just think of a battery of these fired against Greek AD systems from mainland Turkey. Very stealthy, low flying, almost impossible to intercept.

 

[Terrain]

ANKA-3 MIUS tanker configuration View attachment 58981

What other versions could we have for Anka 3?

1) Stealth Unmanned Bomber
2) Stealth Electronic Attack/Jammer
3) Stealth Electronic Support/Signals intelligence
4) Stealth visual intelligence and target painting
5) Refueling
6) Stealth Mini Awac to illuminate blind spots to Boeing 737 AEW&C

???

 

[Terrain]

And BTW this always bothered me why is it that it is called Anka 3? It's confusing, it needs to have structural similarities for it to be part of a family of aircrafts or Anka meant to be an umbrella project name but then again A, B, OR 2 can't be a model name it doesn't make sense who is behind this seriously.

 

[Bürküt]

EDIT

Just think of a battery of these fired against Greek AD systems from mainland Turkey. Very stealthy, low flying, almost impossible to intercept.

I thought the purpose of Süper şimşek was to be visible.To produce in large numbers and spend the enemy's valuable air defense missiles.

 

[Terrain]

We need to have a pool of names we assign to products in country level to avoid duplication. We can not call a tank and plane the same thing.

Some kind of industry product naming platform.