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[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829205370616877191

1x TOLUN Munition Firing Test

 

[Quasar]

Unmanned warplane ANKA-III made its first flight with ammunition!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1830218620061835357

 

[boredaf]

Unmanned warplane ANKA-III made its first flight with ammunition!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1830218620061835357

I hope those pylons can be ejected once the munition is launched, otherwise it is a really unnecessary hit to its radar signature.

 

[Afif]

I hope those pylons can be ejected once the munition is launched, otherwise it is a really unnecessary hit to its radar signature.

How do you going to eject the FLIR?

 

[boredaf]

How do you going to eject the FLIR?

That's going to changed in the future with a more stealthy one anyway, pylons are the real problem.

 

[Sanchez]

I hope those pylons can be ejected once the munition is launched, otherwise it is a really unnecessary hit to its radar signature.

Doubt, it adds unnecessary complexity to the design. Maybe with Kaan in the future.

 

[Khagan1923]

How do you going to eject the FLIR?

ANKA III as well as Kizilelma won't carry any FLIR. They will be both be equipped with Toygun. Pretty sure that was confirmed, for Anka, months ago.

 

[boredaf]

Doubt, it adds unnecessary complexity to the design. Maybe with Kaan in the future.

Then it shouldn't have weapons stations outside at all. This is supposed to be our deep strike bomber, those pylons are detrimental to the role this drone should be used for.

 

[BaburKhan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829981982626885712

 

[Strong AI]

I hope those pylons can be ejected once the munition is launched, otherwise it is a really unnecessary hit to its radar signature.

Then it shouldn't have weapons stations outside at all. This is supposed to be our deep strike bomber, those pylons are detrimental to the role this drone should be used for.

Those pylons are optional. Stealth is not always necessary.
It will be your fastest drone for air-to-ground attack. Yes, we could argue about KE being the fastest, but i am speaking about their speed regarding their primary roles (IMHO KE will be more air-to-air)
So why do you want to restrict your fastest drone only for stealth attacks?
This is still "only" a drone, which costs much less than a B-2 bomber.
AFAIK external pylons with ordinance can't be jettisoned by F-22 or F-35 too, only the ones with fuel tanks, because the pylons are attached on the tank, as i understand it.

 

[Huelague]

What do we know about TB-5 SIHA?

 

[Oublious]

I hope those pylons can be ejected once the munition is launched, otherwise it is a really unnecessary hit to its radar signature.

Chill out, Tusas is only testing how the drone is reacting. In realtime war scenario TuAf will never going to use it like that .

 

[boredaf]

Those pylons are optional. Stealth is not always necessary.
It will be your fastest drone for air-to-ground attack. Yes, we could argue about KE being the fastest, but i am speaking about their speed regarding their primary roles (IMHO KE will be more air-to-air)
So why do you want to restrict your fastest drone only for stealth attacks?
This is still "only" a drone, which costs much less than a B-2 bomber.
AFAIK external pylons with ordinance can't be jettisoned by F-22 or F-35 too, only the ones with fuel tanks, because the pylons are attached on the tank, as i understand it.

If stealth isn't necessary, it is completely unnecessary to use Anka-3. We have drones that can carry more and we have planes that have much more payload and much more faster. And if the stealth is necessary than those pylons are a hinderance. It is completely irrelevant that it won't cost as much as a B-2, it is still going to be an expensive drone, neither our budget nor our production capacity is limitless, risking it needlessly is just stupid.

 

[Strong AI]

And if the stealth is necessary than those pylons are a hinderance.

again

Those pylons are optional.

What do you not understand here?
And why do you "rage" over a prototype, which even doesn't have IWBs. This is just the first prototype of many that will be build, because there will be many versions of ANKA-3. And there will be one with more payload capacity than your current slow drones

 

[boredaf]

And there will be one with more payload capacity than your current slow drones

Then we'll talk about it when it exists. Or we could be talking until cows come home about how awesome it is to have a drone as big as B-2 or whatever.

What do you not understand here?
And why do you "rage" over a prototype, which even doesn't have IWBs.

Nobody is raging, and I understand what you have written but TAI has shown it with pylons more than once, and I'm commenting on that. They have shown and flew with munition outside the plane and it is pointless for a flying wing aircraft, I'm pointing that out? What's so hard to understand about that?

This is just the first prototype of many that will be build, because there will be many versions of ANKA-3.

Again, then we'll talk about them when they exist. I am talking about the drone as it is shown right now.

 

[Strong AI]

I am talking about the drone as it is shown right now.

Which is only the first prototype.

They have shown and flew with munition outside the plane and it is pointless for a flying wing aircraft

According to whom, only you? Since Lockheed Martin and USAF decided to put external pylons on stealth platforms, it doesn't seem pointless at all.

EDIT:

And how should they test weapons integration, when there is no IWB? Of course they need to use external pylons.

EDIT 2:

It could be the same reason why 437 Vanguard has a cockpit, to accelerate the test process.

 

[boredaf]

According to whom, only you? Since Lockheed Martin and USAF decided to put external pylons on stealth platforms, it doesn't seems pointless at all.

Show me the external mounts on B-2, I'll wait.

I'm not going to argue with you back on forth mate, I find it utterly pointless to put even optional pylons on a flying wing drone because using it for anything else other than missions that require stealth is a waste and unnecessarily risking a drone that'll "only" cost 10s of millions of dollars and will be kitted with our latest tech.

You can believe and talk about whatever you want, it is a free forum after all.

 

[Strong AI]

Show me the external mounts on B-2, I'll wait.

I'm not going to argue with you back on forth mate, I find it utterly pointless to put even optional pylons on a flying wing drone because using it for anything else other than missions that require stealth is a waste and unnecessarily risking a drone that'll "only" cost 10s of millions of dollars and will be kitted with our latest tech.

You can believe and talk about whatever you want, it is a free forum after all.

Did you read my two Edits? Maybe the serial production won't have external pylons at all.
And mission planning before a mission exists for a reason. If you lose your flying wing drone because of pylons, you would probably lose it without pylons too. Because your mission plan was a failure anyway.

EDIT:

"because using it for anything else other than missions that require stealth is a waste and unnecessarily risking a drone that'll "only" cost 10s of millions of dollars and will be kitted with our latest tech."

Missions which require ultimate stealth are much more risky, because you need that stealth for a reason. One mistake and your mission is over.

 

[godel44]

I think they are just testing flight stability and fly-by-wire system with the munition right now. Especially with the munition carried on only one side in an unbalanced configuration this inherently unstable form flew pretty well. There will be lots of other trials for munition carried in IWB, munition release and so on. Can’t test everything in the first try.

 

[dBSPL]

IMO, the ANKA-3 system definitely needs under-wing pylons, and you can be sure that the engineers in the relevant part of the project have considered drop-able these pylons during flight. As the power options for the ANKA-3 widens, some payloads with geometries and even weights that will not fit into the internal weapon station under the fuselage, I mean, from external fuel drop-tanks up to other autonomous drones(like advanced Süper-Şimşek variants) will be added to the ANKA-3's repertoire. I believe that ANKA-3 will be the Swiss-knife of the Air Force, not only as a penetrator drone, but also in terms of its possible capabilities. The ANKA-4 (I mean the larger ANKA than version 3), on the other hand, I think it will represent more strategic meaning, as we are likely to see a drone almost the size of the KAAN.