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I wonder which missiles can fit in the IWB among the expected new arrivals
  • Bozdoğan
  • Gökdoğan (?)
  • Gökhan (?)
If Gokhan is set to have the same dimensions of the AIM-120D AMRAAM or the Meteor, then most probably all three, based on mission characteristics . if Gokhan has a longer range, meaning bigger then only Gokdogan and Bozdogan. I laways have the idea that Kizielma is small, but it is a big bird .
Imagine a KE with 2 TF10k on MUGEM, loaded with 2 Gokdogan IWB, or Gokhan plus Murad AESA :love:🙏
 

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Luckily, communication does not work with power electroctronics for the actaul communication, they work with radio electronics. Also, the transmitted radio wave is by definition at ligthspeed and it is the same for every single creature in the universe (Einstein's theory of relativity).

So the calculation is simple as 2x36000km / 300000km/s + 0.02s if you round to 2 significant numbers.

You don't need to trust me, just test it yourself at home.

To test, go to an online latency tester, for example https://packetstats.com. you will see that your latency or ping is about 20-200ms when going through multiple nodes in an uncontrolled network like internet. Latency to your own $20 router at home is about 2-5ms. The processing latency in a dedicated multimillion dollar communication equipment like sats are below 1ms.

As a side note, I have worked with and developed both power and high-speed communication electronics at PhD level.
We can still see latency of around 2 seconds during intercontinental TV broadcasts while not as much as it was five years ago. Probably summarized data will travel faster. By the way I was a licensed marine radio-electronic operator in the past and I know radio communication has a lot to do with power electronics unlike home connections, unless things have changed drastically recently which I doubt. Not all intercontinental communication goes over satellite, alot of it goes through ocean cables one should take notice.
 

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Today is a groundbreaking success and each one of the followings are historical turning points for us:

First, OUR RADAR is matured enough to lock to an aircraft from a flying jet

Second, OUR MISSILE is matured enough to engage an aircraft and eliminate it by getting signal from our radar

Third, OUR UAV (or unmanned combat aircraft should I say) is matured enough to use this combination

Congratulations to our engineers and every contributors and also to our great nation. We live in a times that none of us could even dream these days ten years ago.
 

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“Today is the victory day of Turkish aviation.
On this day 110 years ago, a French Farman aircraft shot down by Ali Rıza and his observer İbrahim Orhan Bey over the skies of Çanakkale became the first loss in the history of the sky over Turkish airspace.
Because 30 November 1915 marks the first victory day in Turkish aerial warfare history, it is one of the most important days in our aviation culture.”


 

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You are off by a factor of 10X.

A +2 second latency would put the sattelite on the moon at about 1-lightsecond distance (it varies between 360-405 kkm).

For a geostationary satellite at 36,000 km, the signal delay is about 240 milliseconds round-trip. You can add a few 10's of milliseconds due to processing. Which will put it below 300ms, this is barely playable latency when you play online real-time games but not the end of the world when you engage BVR.
Bro you are correct about what you are saying ; but only partially @Zafer is correct in the matter of extended latency.

The total up and down distance covered for the geosync satellite is around 76000km, resulting in a minimum theoretical one-way delay (latency) of about 250 milliseconds (a quarter of a second). For two-way communication like satellite internet, the signal has to travel back up to the satellite and back down to the ISP, making the total round-trip latency even longer, often between 500ms to 700ms in practice.

But it doesn’t stop there:

The audio and video signals go through multiple devices like switchers, encoders, decoders, and compression machines, each adding a small amount of processing delay as they prepare the signal for transmission. For high-quality video, this can involve significant buffering to ensure all packets line up correctly, which adds time. This can, with the initial half to 3/4 second latency, be as much as 2 seconds.

But it doesn’t stop there either when it comes to live broadcasts :

There is a further up to 6 seconds intentional delay introduced to the satellite signals by the broadcasters to allow them to intercept unwanted or embedded or transmitted signals reaching the viewers.
 

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The person who added Mehter Marşı to that should be fired. Also, barely anything more than what was released, just some masturbatory aid, nothing new about the actual test.

''How dare you use your own cultural and historic music genre''

Better than using some shitty techno beat.
 

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I think everyone would be on board. Baykar is known to test stuff rapidly in succession and they are a stubborn, competitive company.

Thank you Baykar for proving your worth one more time. Thank you Aselsan, TÜBİTAK SAGE.

This test is also another testament to the Turkish defense industry‘s ecosystem success.

On a lighter note, if this feat by Kızılelma saved or maybe restored some of Anıl Şahin’s credibility, so be it 😌
 
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"Heute ist der Siegestag der türkischen Luftfahrt.
An diesem Tag vor 110 Jahren wurde ein französisches Farman-Flugzeug, das von Ali Rıza und seinem Beobachter İbrahim Orhan Bey über dem Himmel von Çanakkale abgeschossen wurde, der erste Verlust in der Geschichte des Luftraums über dem türkischen Luftraum.
Da der 30. November 1915 der erste Siegtag in der Geschichte der türkischen Luftkriegsführung markiert, ist er einer der wichtigsten Tage in unserer Luftfahrtkultur."


... Ja, okay. Doch KIZIELMA hat das Ziel am 28.11.2025 abgeschossen.
 

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