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[Zafer]

This was NEVER the issue. They claimed, Baykar TB2 was the first Turkish armed UAV. Is that right or is that wrong?
Btw, I was not bet, that Cirit was never used on a battleground.

You were not bet what ? You bet Cirit was used or was not? Anyway.

Who is anyone to say Baykar was not first when Baykar with 3500 personnel say they are.

 

[Nutuk]

Was ANKA the first armed drone? Hmmm could be I can not recall. I only remember that somewhere in 2014 TB-2 armed drones were shown.

Anyway does not matter, they are both our drones. Proud of them both!

 

[Zafer]

I won't be sharing more on this very topic as my post was mercilessly deleted by Defencehub.

 

[Huelague]

You were not bet what ? You bet Cirit was used or was not? Anyway.

Who is anyone to say Baykar was not first when Baykar with 3500 personnel say they are.

That Cirit was never used in a combat.
I believe in numbers, not what people are saying. If Anka has carried and fired a bomb/missile in 2011, and TB2 did. same two years later. TB-2 can never be the first. A simple arithmetic.

 

[Huelague]

Was ANKA the first armed drone? Hmmm could be I can not recall. I only remember that somewhere in 2014 TB-2 armed drones were shown.

Anyway does not matter, they are both our drones. Proud of them both!

I can recall very well. Even the incredible shout of a Cirit with amazing maneuverability, where they switched from one target to another just in less than a second.

 

[guest12]

Was ANKA the first armed drone? Hmmm could be I can not recall. I only remember that somewhere in 2014 TB-2 armed drones were shown.

Anyway does not matter, they are both our drones. Proud of them both!

Anka was first with Cirit but because how heavy Cirit was and Anka's payload limit being under 100 kg there were no missile lightweigth enough to be used on Anka.Since putting only 1 cirit on one wing of Anka was not a good idea(you know balance thing) and Cirit was also couldn't be used in guided free fall manner(being a rocket can be fired only towards direct line) Anka with Cirit did see much combat.During thing period TB-2 developed but TB-2 carried same payload limitation problem in fact TB-2's original payload was 70-80 kg something even lower than Ankas.Finally Roketsan came out with MAM family missiles , as lightweigth laser guided missiles they were just perfect for payload limitation problem.After that MAM family used for both Anka and TB-2.

So first weaponized UAV was Anka with Cirit. @Zafer

 

[Huelague]

Anka was first with Cirit but because how heavy Cirit was and Anka's payload limit being under 100 kg there were no missile lightweigth enough to be used on Anka.Since putting only 1 cirit on one wing of Anka was not a good idea(you know balance thing) and Cirit was also couldn't be used in guided free fall manner(being a rocket can be fired only towards direct line) Anka with Cirit did see much combat.During thing period TB-2 developed but TB-2 carried same payload limitation problem in fact TB-2's original payload was 70-80 kg something even lower than Ankas.Finally Roketsan came out with MAM family missiles , as lightweigth laser guided missiles they were just perfect for payload limitation problem.After that MAM family used for both Anka and TB-2.

So first weaponized UAV was Anka with Cirit. @Zafer

Anna’s payload was under 100kg???

 

[wolveray1]

Anti-tank version of DELI is on the way

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672920074271744002

How is it compare to lancet especially with regard to range,payload and duration.

 

[Yasar_TR]

How is it compare to lancet especially with regard to range,payload and duration.

Similar but different.
Deli has a 3.1 kg explosive payload with a MTOW of 13kg and 85km range. It stays in the air for 75minutes while cruising at 80km/h and has a top speed of 180km/h. It can operate day and night against sea or land surface targets. It is capable of target search and classification with artificial intelligence. It can operate fully autonomously and fly in swarms when necessary. It has an operational altitude of 150-500m and can fly at up to 3500m altitudes.

Lancet has a maximum range of 40km and has an explosive payload of 3kg with a MTOW of 12kg. It dives in supposedly at a speed of 300km/hr to its target. It has electro optic control system for target acquisition. The drone can fly at a speed from 80 to 110 km/h with a maximum endurance of 40 minutes. It features autonomous flight operations made possible through onboard artificial intelligence or pre-programming.

https://titra.com.tr/uploads/docs/1666603056_tItrafoydelI01sageen.pdf

 

[wolveray1]

They should send some delis to ukraine to get battle experience.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

My guess is; they are going to sell these at a very high price to the geopolitical competitors of Akıncı users. The French are very innovative prople when it comes to war profiteering.

and it will only support expensive French munitions even if the drone is sold at a discounted price , potential price gouging

 

[Trakya_forever]

Deli's new warhead is 3.8 kg. Special warhead for anti tank missions will be ready in a short time. 250 Deli drones will be produced per year.
Till the end of the year Azab drones will be ready for use as well.

 

[Agha Sher]

Deli's new warhead is 3.8 kg. Special warhead for anti tank missions will be ready in a short time. 250 Deli drones will be produced per year.
Till the end of the year Azab drones will be ready for use as well.

250 is a very low number. Should have been a couple of thousands a year

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

250 is a very low number. Should have been a couple of thousands a year

Yeah, 250 is a joke.

 

[Trakya_forever]

French UCAV cant compete with Akıncı neither for price nor munitions. Akinci uses/will use Mam C/L/T, HGK, LGK, KGK, TOLUN, İHA 122/230, Kemankeş, SOM variants, Sungur, Bozdoğan, Gökdoğan etc.

 

[Trakya_forever]

250 is a very low number. Should have been a couple of thousands a year

It depeds. For now, it is OK.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Titra will reveal PARS subcloud drone in IDEF23 and Pars will be competitor of RQ-20 PUMA.

Alemi cahil, kendinizi akıllı mı sanıyorsunuz?

Aslında E-Ticaret Yasası ile ortaya dökülen saçmalıklardan utanılması gereken çok husus var. Eğer ar duyguları kaldıysa işini bu denli kötü yapıp, "cambaza bak" şaklabanlığı yapanları epeyce utandıracak bir mevzu söz konusu. Ülkü Tamer'in şiirinde dile getirdiği gibi; "Hem dersini bilmiyor hem...

www.haberturk.com

 

[Era_shield]

250 is a very low number. Should have been a couple of thousands a year

250 is too much IMO. Its accuracy is not good enough even against a stationary target. There will be many different types of this design coming out soon, they should first have a competition and see which one is the best before building thousands of this one.

 

[Oublious]

Titra will reveal PARS subcloud drone in IDEF23 and Pars will be competitor of RQ-20 PUMA.

Alemi cahil, kendinizi akıllı mı sanıyorsunuz?

Aslında E-Ticaret Yasası ile ortaya dökülen saçmalıklardan utanılması gereken çok husus var. Eğer ar duyguları kaldıysa işini bu denli kötü yapıp, "cambaza bak" şaklabanlığı yapanları epeyce utandıracak bir mevzu söz konusu. Ülkü Tamer'in şiirinde dile getirdiği gibi; "Hem dersini bilmiyor hem...

www.haberturk.com

wrong link...

 

[Aloster]

Titra will reveal PARS subcloud drone in IDEF23 and Pars will be competitor of RQ-20 PUMA.

Alemi cahil, kendinizi akıllı mı sanıyorsunuz?

Aslında E-Ticaret Yasası ile ortaya dökülen saçmalıklardan utanılması gereken çok husus var. Eğer ar duyguları kaldıysa işini bu denli kötü yapıp, "cambaza bak" şaklabanlığı yapanları epeyce utandıracak bir mevzu söz konusu. Ülkü Tamer'in şiirinde dile getirdiği gibi; "Hem dersini bilmiyor hem...

www.haberturk.com

Sorry I don't understand PUMA and RQ-20 competition. We already have RQ-20 PUMA class drone Bayraktar Mini UAV since 2007 and in use at 4 countries as a number 300 - 500 acc to open sources. Someone can explain me PARS , RQ-20 PUMA and Bayraktar Mini UAV differences. Bayraktar Mini UAV first flight date two year earlier than RQ-20 (I want to end copy bla bla things before start) . I know After in use grudually RQ-20 developed as marine type, extended range, and solar type. I m not sure Bayraktar Mini UAV last version status but PARS need to better or same as marine or extended range type of RQ-20 . If not , market already dominated by Bayraktar Mini UAV.