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The F-35 is definitely not garbage because of its capabilities, but it could be if it's sold as a dumbed-down version with operational limitations and conditions of deployment. It's not the plane itself that could be the problem, it's the strings attached to that potential purchase.

Indeed my statement is mainly about people who fanboy over something at the same time you have people because they cant get a system they start calling it trash doesnt mean its trash.
 

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Indeed my statement is mainly about people who fanboy over something at the same time you have people because they cant get a system they start calling it trash doesnt mean its trash.
Yes, we tend to emulate The Fox and the Sour Grapes.
 

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Spain's second batch EF T4 deliveries under Halcon II for 25 aircraft will start in 2028, instead of the originally planned 2030. This follows the original Halcon I for 20 aircraft that will start next year.

Meanwhile, our possible order is still in the air.

 

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It's likely because we'd rather tie the knot with US than allow EU to have another hold over us. Especially in defense sector after the fad with MTU engine
 

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Don't know if I should laugh or cry at this situation. A country nevent 1/10 of your size has a better procurement strategy than us.

We should be the ones running after C-390, A400M, CH-47 and MH-60R (or at least more S-70) yet regulary we hear from our officials how there is no interest and need for those crafts.

Not even gonna mention the mismanagement of the T-70 project.

Complete shithow.

Can't even complete the transaction for second-hand C-130 from the Brits.

But don't worry when the T-925 enters inventory in 2032 and our own logistic-lift plane project is announced and finished in 2040 everything will be fine until then we will iha siha 31 everything, right? In the meantime we can afford some more A8, S-Class and 7 series for our yandas.
Aren't you getting A400M? I believe that production share was linked to numbers ordered by the partners. Is that why Spain ordered more than it needed? Looks like a Hurjet/A400M deal benefits both parties, so I guess Turkiye will be getting some A400M.
 

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Just spending time for nothing while israel bombing syria non stop and there are news that aslo some turkish staff were bombed dur8ng those raids and Turkiye cant do nothing agaist tiny fake terror country israel , better to look at someone else and make our airforce the largest and modern in world . And stop licking US and EU assholes . The solution is to talk to China to buy more than 250 J35 steath fighter and build them in home with Turkish systems , and Aesa radars . Aslo modernise all 240 f16 in home . With around 500 fighter jets with AESA we can easy go in syria and protect ourselfs and allies . There arw no more humiliation than to get bombed by israel and do nothing . Since 10 years licking ZIONISM ass to buy some overrrated non steath aircrafts that will be controlled throw spare parts or Software from main producer in Eu or US . 😡😡
Turkiye is developing KAAN with a Turkish engine. I think that is the 'solution'.
 

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Aren't you getting A400M? I believe that production share was linked to numbers ordered by the partners. Is that why Spain ordered more than it needed? Looks like a Hurjet/A400M deal benefits both parties, so I guess Turkiye will be getting some A400M.
It's not yet clear if the future Hürjet deal includes Spanish slated A400s being delivered to Turkey instead. Some of the quoted project costs for Spanish project I saw do make me think a barter is in the works, but we don't know.
 

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I remember reading somewhere that the KC-46 has not met the expectations and was showing cracks not to mention delays with components and deliveries.
Italy has retracted its order of these tankers and even Boeing seems to be embarrassed about how it turned out (a la B737 Max).

I really hope we opt for the Airbus MRTT which would make more sense now that we're actively involved in Italian and Spanish aviation market.
 

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The KC-46 still has five category 1 deficiencies, saying the aircraft is “not” performing “optimally.” The aircraft is cleared to refuel with all Air Force aircraft, except the A-10 and the yet-to-be-fielded E-7 Wedgetail.



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KC-46 is a shit show
 
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He probably had some issues relating to having the okay to talk about it publicly, but he said that it is concrete in another comment.
"Speaking on condition of anonymity, three sources with knowledge of the matter, but without authorisation for official comment, said in late May that the airlifters would soon be arriving in the country, with two noting that this would happen “in early 2026”. Janes understands they were referring to 12 surplus UK aircraft, which were retired from Royal Air Force (RAF) service in June 2023."


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"Speaking on condition of anonymity, three sources with knowledge of the matter, but without authorisation for official comment, said in late May that the airlifters would soon be arriving in the country, with two noting that this would happen “in early 2026”. Janes understands they were referring to 12 surplus UK aircraft, which were retired from Royal Air Force (RAF) service in June 2023."


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The only way I see our guys go KC-46A is if Boeing offers them cheap.
 
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