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[Pokemonte13]

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According to Akbaba their will be a additional order for 4 istifs.

 

[TR_123456]

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According to Akbaba their will be a additional order for 4 istifs.

So,when two are sold only two more Istif class?

 

[Anmdt]

I believe MKE has been building these fuzes for a long time, most our ships had a similar capability for years for 76 and 127mm. What Strales adds is the radar and the faster rate of fire.

I thought MKE was only making the HE type of 76/62 rounds without the proximity fuse. The picture is from TCG Istanbul which is equipped with Super Rapid. The munition shown could also have been delivered with the gun from Leonardo

 

[Anmdt]

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According to Akbaba their will be a additional order for 4 istifs.

Source: His arse.

Current Tepe-Class acquisition surpasses a billion dollars, suffice to say well above. The first 4 orders most definitely will be full package consisting of Planar array Triband AESA ESM suite, Full CAFRAD suite, 96 VLS.

However, I am ascertain that the later block will be downgraded to serve as multi-purpose frigate and won't be referred as "Tepe Class". Costing nearly half, 6-8 of these will be procured.

And there will be a final block which will be procured after the multi purpose frigate, and it will be something else, possibly 2 or 3 of these dedicated to BMD.

Source: my arse, nevertheless.

 

[Anmdt]

So,when two are sold only two more Istif class?

There are few ships in the inventory, seeming that can't keep up beyond 2030s, at least two of this "rumored" orders are for Turkish Navy.

Also we shall consider this in conjunction with TF-2000 procurement. The very same shipyards of TAIS consortium will be building TF-2000, on in each. 4 more I-Class also means another 2 years, which delays +3 TF-2000 by another two years, beyond 2030 to start construction.

 

[Pokemonte13]

I think they would first order the replacement for the sold ships and the extra maybe after the 3 tf2000. But overall I don’t expect any more orders for tf2000 before 2029 but I would welcome 10 istifs for our navy.

 

[TR_123456]

There are few ships in the inventory, seeming that can't keep up beyond 2030s, at least two of this "rumored" orders are for Turkish Navy.

Also we shall consider this in conjunction with TF-2000 procurement. The very same shipyards of TAIS consortium will be building TF-2000, on in each. 4 more I-Class also means another 2 years, which delays +3 TF-2000 by another two years, beyond 2030 to start construction.

Any news on a ''inbetween'' class?

 

[Sanchez]

Any news on a ''inbetween'' class?

Nothing new so far afaik.

But this would be the said in-between class if it happens:

However, I am ascertain that the later block will be downgraded to serve as multi-purpose frigate and won't be referred as "Tepe Class". Costing nearly half, 6-8 of these will be procured.

Downgrading the sensors and lowering VLS count to 48-64 on the Tepe and converting them to a multi purpose frigate at 5-6ktons would be cheaper than a new design.
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Current Tepe-Class acquisition surpasses a billion dollars, suffice to say well above.

Single ship? We always knew it would be expensive; but damn.

 

[TR_123456]

Current Tepe-Class acquisition surpasses a billion dollars, suffice to say well above.

Wth,how come?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Wth,how come?

Just check out the cost of Type 45 Daring Class destroyers of UK.
According to below report in 2016 ,each ship cost 1.2 billion dollars. With today’s dollar that is 1.7 billion dollars. It hasn’t got as many VLS as ours . Infact 48 cells only. Tepe will have 96 cells. Overall they are very similar ships in size and weight.
Turkish cost base will make it cheaper. But by the time the ship is fully fitted and ready to be in the inventory, it could be 2030. So think about the value of dollar in 4-5 years time. I think 1 billion is an optimistic prediction. It could easily surpass that by a large margin as predicted by @Anmdt .

https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=1253

 

[Anmdt]

Wth,how come?

It literally has 2x4 planar arrays for AESA ESM suite covering all the band and huge AESA S-band radar, enlarged AESA X-band radars. They are also rumoring further anti-drone and shorad / short range ASuW capabilities.

 

[Pokemonte13]

To be fair a billion dollars is still a good price compared to other ships. Greek fdi costs around 800 million per ship and arleigh Burke cost close to 2 billion I think only the South Koreans and Japanese are better than us even though they use American systems on their ships.

 

[Huelague]

Source: His arse.

Current Tepe-Class acquisition surpasses a billion dollars, suffice to say well above. The first 4 orders most definitely will be full package consisting of Planar array Triband AESA ESM suite, Full CAFRAD suite, 96 VLS.

However, I am ascertain that the later block will be downgraded to serve as multi-purpose frigate and won't be referred as "Tepe Class". Costing nearly half, 6-8 of these will be procured.

And there will be a final block which will be procured after the multi purpose frigate, and it will be something else, possibly 2 or 3 of these dedicated to BMD.

Source: my arse, nevertheless.

Now it makes all sense, to sell the first ISTIF Class frigates, because of lack of money.