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If AKP loses the elections, all progress in our defence industry will come to a end and all these agreements will be void.

Babacan just threatened Baykar with closing plants and canceling projects.

Ali Babacan = "Hükümet tarafından bunlar kutsal hale getirildi. Dokunanı yakarız deniyor. Kusura bakmasınlar ama biz dokunacağız"

Translation: "The State gave them (Baykar Corp.) a holy status. Nobody can touch them. But dont worry, we will touch them."

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Letting those obvious traitors live in peace inside the country they want to destroy is the BIGGEST joke ever...
 

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Old tweets, but it shows clearly their agenda and mentality. The first weaponfact of the opposition after winning the elections will be the killing of the Turkish weapon industry.

God forbid that the pro-domestic weapons AKP lose the elections (even if i am not a fan).

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If AKP loses the elections, all progress in our defence industry will come to a end and all these agreements will be void.

Babacan just threatened Baykar with closing plants and canceling projects.

Ali Babacan = "Hükümet tarafından bunlar kutsal hale getirildi. Dokunanı yakarız deniyor. Kusura bakmasınlar ama biz dokunacağız"

Translation: "The State gave them (Baykar Corp.) a holy status. Nobody can touch them. But dont worry, we will touch them."

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You think people are idiot??
Progress in defence industry is not thx to akp!! But even with akp defence i dustry grows!! Our engineers leave our country but this is a success right!!
Tskgv companies have many akp baboons ad managers instead of engineers working at these companies for years!! This is also a success right!!
Don't think that people are idiots. Success is thx to old managements of SSM and it's past administrations!!
We did not forget how milgem s deal cancelled, how brain of milgem project put in to prison!!
 

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Old tweets, but it shows clearly their agenda and mentality. The first weaponfact of the opposition after winning the elections will be the killing of the Turkish weapon industry.

God forbid that the pro-domestic weapons AKP lose the elections (even if i am not a fan).

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So you don't want Baykar to be questioned? I want Baykar and all deals made by akp to be questioned! like all deals given to "5 li çete"
I want institutes and all state deals to be questioned !!
 
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Letting those obvious traitors live in peace inside the country they want to destroy is the BIGGEST joke ever...
Who are you to say anyone traitor??
Is it okey if I say same to you?
I question every deal made by akp, so this makes me traitor??
 

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Till now, I cant believe that there are people who are questioning Baykar's capabilities at this point in time

Hasnt Baykar done enough by destroying the second strongest army in the world using cheap ass drones? Or havent they done enough by building top quality products for cheap money? Havent they done enough by building a fighter jet drone (Kizilelma)?

This is why I hate the opposition; mark my words, not only the Deva party but also both the CHP and HDP have the same beliefs..... and who knows what the iYi thinks of! They are ready to sell their country for pleasing the US!

Do you know whats even funnier? Is that when they destroy Baykar to please the US, Baykar himself will have no choice other than to transfer his company to the US in order to earn money and do what he loves. At that point in time, the whole Western world, particularly the US itself, will start making songs praising Baykar's achievement and how amazing of a man he is

I want every deals made by akp to be questioned!!
If anyone used state to give his/her priority in his/her works , this things will be questioned. This is a democracy, we can not give priority to some companies and block others!!
We see how they try to legitimize their taken support by putting TFX etc. in the news. We also see which Twitter pages paid by akp!!
 

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The problem isnt in Ali babacan himself but more on the trend!
Turkish weapons industry have been soaring quite fast to the point of passing major arms suppliers like Russia and China in terms of quality in recent years; this without a doubt, will raise alarm bells in the US and western nations in general as their hegemony is being threatened in the long term

Long ago, only HDP criticised Turkish weapons but now Babacan as well? Lets not forget that both of them are part of the alliance; couple that with the fact on how the top brass of the largest opposition party (CHP) is licking the HDP's boots to the point that they want to leave Syria back to the PKK and this should just give you an idea of how things will turn out in the future

Iam 100% sure that each and every political party within the TABLE OF THE 6 is receiving top Western aid in order to destroy TSK defence industry either directly or indirectly just like how Babacan stated

Long ago, when the West wanted to win against the Ottoman empire, one of their main tactics was to ensure that the Ottoman empire never had any source of indiginous weaponry whatsoever; therefore, whenever an Ottoman officer proposed to set up indiginous weapons lines, they usually end up dead or blown up along with their factory.

What is happening rn is just a sad recap of what may happen in the future


Who are you to say that 6li.masa takes order from west?? Who are you that you can say that the voters are traitor for this 6linmasa by saying they are taking orders from west??
We made Cyprus operation when 2 of this 6li masa members was running the country(Chp and saadet) .instead under akp we lost islands in the Aegean!!
And forget ottoman empire, we are Türkiye Cumhuriyeti!!
 

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I will not stand idle while pro-government media start to trash talk our own state funded companies with BS comparison. Don't care about politics, but that graphic is ill intended and straight propaganda.

Defence industry can only be strong with cooperation and a deep level of integration between defence companies.
 

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Ittifak with hdp? My as*
They should change that to westerservent ittifakfak...history repeats itself...just like prior to ww1
 

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Ittifak with hdp? My as*
They should change that to westerservent ittifakfak...history repeats itself...just like prior to ww1
In 2018 they did Alliance without Hdp As far i remeber . So lets see this year , Big mistake if they work with Hdp separatist for some pig votes , they will loose votes from Patriots and The canditate should be Mansur Yavaş .
 

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Promises of the table of 6

Translation:
Common Policies Text of the 6th Table:
The duration of the state of emergency will be reduced from 6 months to 2 months. The President will be elected once for 7 years.
The President's power to issue decrees will expire.
Corruption Investigation Commission to be established
The statute of limitations for corruption crimes will be lifted.


Translation:
Common Policies Text of the 6th Table:
Passports will be given to young people free of charge,
and the departure fee will be abolished.
We will provide 5 GB of free internet service per month to young people between the ages of 6-25.
Digital Device taxes will be reduced

 

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Promises of the table of 6

Translation:
Common Policies Text of the 6th Table:
The duration of the state of emergency will be reduced from 6 months to 2 months. The President will be elected once for 7 years.
The President's power to issue decrees will expire.
Corruption Investigation Commission to be established
The statute of limitations for corruption crimes will be lifted.


Translation:
Common Policies Text of the 6th Table:
Passports will be given to young people free of charge,
and the departure fee will be abolished.
We will provide 5 GB of free internet service per month to young people between the ages of 6-25.
Digital Device taxes will be reduced

Not bad, I guess.
Targeting the young people.
 

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Full text defence industry part of the agreement by the Nation's Alliance


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English:

Defense Industry​


Move our defense industry to a much higher point, reduce the dependence of our country on defense industry, create an ecosystem that will lead the development of advanced dual-use industrial technologies, increase the operational power and deterrent of our armed forces, and develop high-value exports.

End political appointments and nepotism practices in public institutions and organizations related to the defense industry and ensure that these institutions and organizations work based on merit and expertise.

Consolidate the powers and responsibilities of the defense industry in the Defense Industry Presidency, creating a structure that is transparent, accountable and free of political influence.

Ensure that the Force Commanders also participate in the Defense Industry Executive Committee.

Create mechanisms to create synergy, cooperation, and coordination between the Defense Industry Presidency and other institutions, organizations, and foundation companies and private companies operating in the defense industry sector.

Open the way for the private sector in the defense industry and ensure fair competition.

Ensure the participation of the private sector in defense industry tenders through simplified bureaucratic processes, free of favoritism and classification as close/distant to the government, and apply the same principles in the audits.

Share the annual requirements projections of our armed forces and security forces with the private sector, opening the way for defense industry companies, especially SMEs, to make future-oriented investments, creating an ecosystem that supports, develops and grows each other, both at the main system and sub-system levels.

Restructure the Turkish Armed Forces Strengthening Foundation and its affiliated companies, free the management of the Foundation from political influences and share the use of its resources transparently with the public.

We will ensure that foundation companies operating in the defense industry work within the framework of principles that are transparent to assessment of accountability, measurable performance and efficiency, based on merit-based, strategic, and professional management.

We will eliminate the disadvantages arising from the mostly single-sourced procurement of foundation companies and support the development of future technologies with projects and incentives in which small and medium-sized enterprises can also participate.

We will restructure MKEK, eliminate dependence on foreign sources for explosives, conventional weapons, and essentials.

We will manage large procurement projects in a manner that does not disrupt the force structure and planning, in line with the country's foreign policy and the specific security environment and needs.

We will create a separate and special budget for the practical implementation and full localization of projects such as the National Combat Aircraft, Jet Training Aircraft, Altay Tank, TF 2000 Frigate, 4G and 5G base stations and network infrastructure, military surveillance and communication satellites, and similar projects, which have constantly postponed development schedules, and will allocate the necessary expert personnel.

We will complete the engine procurement process for the Altay Tank and start domestic engine work, which is greatly needed in air, land and sea platforms, and continue and succeed in domestic aircraft and tank projects with a great mobilization.

We will accelerate Turkey's satellite development and launch efforts, integrate civil and military satellite programs, prioritize the localization of critical technologies in this area, and increase the localization rate to above 50%.

Within 10 years, we will truly increase the currently low localization rate in the defense industry to 80%.


With consolidation, strategic procurement, mergers, venture capital investment, and effective planning, and with the active support of the private sector, we will transform ASELSAN, TAI, MKE, Roketsan, TEI, and HAVELSAN into global companies.

We will establish the Defense Industry Industrial Design and Production Center to produce all materials and inputs used in the defense industry, including next-generation materials, locally.

We will prevent direct imports from abroad under the guise of emergency needs and base the supply of systems that do not impose any usage limits.

In case of imports from abroad, we will open the way for the use of our balance in offset applications of the resources that leave the country, especially in defense-themed entrepreneurship funds.

We will prioritize the development of advanced capabilities such as nanotechnology, biotechnology, and robotics systems in new ventures and university projects, in addition to conventional weapons systems, in order to respond to future security needs.

We will increase resources allocated to R&D and venture capital in defense industry and support R&D efforts by the private sector.

We will create a widespread incubation environment for innovative products and actively support individuals and organizations in this regard.

We will not privatize military factories that compromise critical capabilities and services in the national interest and security, and carry out privatizations in suitable areas in accordance with national participation, free competition, and public procurement regulations.

We will cancel the allocation process of the Sakarya Tank Pallet Factory to quickly implement existing and new projects within the legal framework.

In coordination with the Ministry of National Defense, the Ministry of Industry and Technology, and the Ministry of National Education, we will ensure that our researchers who have completed their education abroad add value to our local defense industry as R&D and innovation specialists.

We will reverse the brain drain from our defense industry by recovering our engineers and technical teams who work in foreign companies due to incorrect policies and practices, develop and implement the Defense Industry Brain Drain Action Plan.
 
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