Compared to previous design images, the distance between two turbofan has increased.
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Another difference caught my attention. The joints angle of the wings with the body have also changed. It was almost 90 degrees
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Compared to previous design images, the distance between two turbofan has increased.
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aradaki fark dikkatimi çekti. Kanatların sistem ile ekleme ekleme da değişmiştir. 90 dereceydi
In this way, we can say that the wing area has increased.Bir farklılık daha dikkatimi çekti. Kanatların gövde ile eklem açısı da değişmiştir. neredeyse 90 dereceydi
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In this way, we can say that the wing area has increased.
Than TF-X has a lover RCS than F-22.
What about RAM Material of the Plane? It has an effect on visibility of the plane too. Do you have their numbers too.
Kuzgun is not an air to air missile.
Kuzgun is not an air to air missile.
It was showed in the Air to Air section at the press launch. There is a high probability that this version of SUNGUR is being worked on
Yesterday you were defending tooth and nail the subpar TurAF requirements as totally legit and now you are reinterpreting them to fit your idea about what it should be?This is Kuzgun. There is no way you can use Kuzgun for A-A engagements. Something is wrong here. It might be Tubitak SAGE Akdogan mini A-A missile.
This is Kuzgun. There is no way you can use Kuzgun for A-A engagements. Something is wrong here. It might be Tubitak SAGE Akdogan mini A-A missile.
You don't even know exact requirements set by TAF, so better you don't talk about those.Akya requirement was 15km, Roketsan made it 30+ km
Hisar A requirement was 10 km, became 15+ km
Hisar O was 25 km became 40+ km
SOM 185 km? became 250+ km
Gokdogan 65km, became more and easily reaches 100km
TDI: We have this amazing cruise missile that we have purposefully redesigned to fit in an internal weapons bay of a single engine, medium weight fighter!
TurAF: No! We don't want it to be carried internally in our twin engine, heavyweight fighter. It can go under the wings compromising the stealth and thus not able to sneak on our enemy. That wouldn't be kind of us! Thank you!
TDI: We are going to make this TF-X into an air-to-air beast carrying 6 air-to-air missile internally
TurAF: But it has all to be under 1000lb okay? So no more than 3 air-to-air missiles internally!
TDI: We are going to develop the best internal reconnaissance, targeting and ECM systems we can!
TurAF: Yes! But it has to carry a 40-50 year old and foreign ECM pod externally okay? EHPOD? What is that?
TDI: We are going to make all kinds of air-to-air missiles by our own!
TurAF: Yes! But make sure it can carry MICA and AMRAAM too, otherwise what is the point right?
TDI: We are going to make this fighter have a MTOW of more than 60000lb!
TurAF: Make sure it can't carry more than 1 Mk 83 internally, okay!
TDI: We are going to make this baby fly on 18 March 2025!
TurAF: Erm....no. 18 months later sounds better! Our pilots aren't eager to fly it anyway!
TDI: We have made these small diameter bombs! They just weigh 100kg each and can be quad-packed!
TurAF: But no carry more than 4 internally okay!!
This is no incompetence. This reeks of sabotage. They need another clean-up round against FETO.
The end-user is Airforce so they are the one who will set the minimum requirement, who else would specify the requirements?Yesterday you were defending tooth and nail the subpar TurAF requirements as totally legit and now you are reinterpreting them to fit your idea about what it should be?
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I'm not talking about the article I'm talking about the image you posted. Spear/Mızrak is a different missile than Kuzgun.Mr @TheInsider;
We know what Kuzgun looks like. You can see SPEAR written on the graph. SPEAR' turkish rival is SUNGUR. We may or may not see the A to A version in the future. We just discuss assumptions...
@Defence Turkey
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TDI: We have this amazing cruise missile that we have purposefully redesigned to fit in an internal weapons bay of a single engine, medium weight fighter!
TurAF: No! We don't want it to be carried internally in our twin engine, heavyweight fighter. It can go under the wings compromising the stealth and thus not able to sneak on our enemy. That wouldn't be kind of us! Thank you!
TDI: We are going to make this TF-X into an air-to-air beast carrying 6 air-to-air missile internally
TurAF: But it has all to be under 1000lb okay? So no more than 3 air-to-air missiles internally!
TDI: We are going to develop the best conformal reconnaissance, targeting and ECM systems we can!
TurAF: Yes! But it has to carry a 40-50 year old and foreign ECM pod externally okay? EHPOD? What is that?
TDI: We are going to make all kinds of air-to-air missiles by our own!
TurAF: Yes! But make sure it can carry MICA and AMRAAM too, otherwise what is the point right?
TDI: We are going to make this fighter have a MTOW of more than 60000lb!
TurAF: Make sure it can't carry more than 1 Mk 83 internally, okay!
TDI: We are going to make this baby fly on 18 March 2025!
TurAF: Erm....no. 18 months later sounds better! Our pilots aren't eager to fly it anyway!
TDI: We have made these small diameter bombs! They just weigh 100kg each and can be quad-packed!
TurAF: But no carry more than 4 internally okay!!
This is no incompetence. This reeks of sabotage. They need another clean-up round against FETO.