TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[TheInsider]

All EO systems will be present on the first aircraft delivered. Apart from the national turbofan, all stats are inline with what the first Blok 10s will have

True. Block 10 will include all of those listed above plus 20 dB class stealth coating, basic MUM-T capability, and sensor fusion.
Planned improvements for later blocks are national turbofan, 25 dB class stealth coating, advanced MUM-T capability, advanced sensor fusion, and high-powered laser.

 

[somegoodusername]

I don't like this guy's aggressive mentality when discussing these issues. He’s always in a fight on Twitter, arguing with everyone and trying to prove the supremacy of his identity by comparing cherry-picked stats.

For one example we probably won’t see the Kaan using DIRCMs until the mid-2030s. Meanwhile, the KF-21 and F-35 won’t remain in their current configurations until then. That’s just one aspect, along with the very accurate comment from @Chocopie.

This TR Tech guy is bad. Sometimes he even openly lies. Not credible enough for this forum.

Yıldırım-100 DIRCM already attended a NATO exercise. Yıldırım 300 is an improved version of it.

It took nearly 20 years for the F-35, from its first introduction to service in the USAF, to reach the operational capability that was promoted in before 2006, with Block 4 implemented today. TAI's new president speaks differently about the hyped and unrealistic claims of his predecessor. DIRCM was one blunt example. What I mean is that by the time the Kaan is predicted to reach a good level of operational capability, the F-35 and KF-21 won't be in the same place they are today.

 

[TheInsider]

It took nearly 20 years for the F-35, from its first introduction to service in the USAF, to reach the operational capability that was promoted in before 2006, with Block 4 implemented today. TAI's new president speaks differently about the hyped and unrealistic claims of his predecessor. DIRCM was one blunt example. What I mean is that by the time the Kaan is predicted to reach a good level of operational capability, the F-35 and KF-21 won't be in the same place they are today.

Technology in the late 90s and early 2000s are inherently different compared to today's technology. Newcomers don't need 2,5 decades to develop and mature a 5th gen fighter.

 

[Chocopie]

For one example we probably won’t see the Kaan using DIRCMs until the mid-2030s. Meanwhile, the KF-21 and F-35 won’t remain in their current configurations until then. That’s just one aspect, along with the very accurate comment from @Chocopie.

Fun fact: South Korea already developed & tested DIRCM in 2018. It successfully passed operational deployment tests in 2021 & installed in military helicopters and transport aircrafts.

KF-21EX variant (aka Block III) in mid-2030s will feature an improved DIRCM model besides IWB, RAM coating, conformal antennas and stealth conformal sensors.

Hanwha Systems’ DIRCM flashes a cutting-edge Quantum Cascade Laser (QCL) for countermeasure against incoming missiles:

Longer Korean version:

Sorry Moderator if my post derails the Kaan thread. Don‘t know how to properly remove it to the KF-21 thread.

 

[Spitfire9]

Development and mass production are two very different things. We might be at later stages of development, but for mass production and spreading the costs we still need partners.

Azerbaijan is a partner. What can that country do to lower Turkiye's financial outlay on production? What components of KAAN could Azerbaijan mass produce?

Indonesia is a potential buyer of KAAN or similar, has an aerospace capability, so would have value as a partner. Pakistan is broke and looks like it will buy FC-31 from its Chinese overlords. Anyone else? Are there any Arab countries capable of mass producing components for KAAN?

Several countries have engineering companies with the expertise to mass produce parts for KAAN but would not be interested in greater investment in an aircraft not needed by their air force.

 

[what]

Well buying a product already does spread the fixed costs of the product on more pieces.

 

[Huelague]

It took nearly 20 years for the F-35, from its first introduction to service in the USAF, to reach the operational capability that was promoted in before 2006, with Block 4 implemented today. TAI's new president speaks differently about the hyped and unrealistic claims of his predecessor. DIRCM was one blunt example. What I mean is that by the time the Kaan is predicted to reach a good level of operational capability, the F-35 and KF-21 won't be in the same place they are today.

Don’t take this number (20 years) to much seriously. It’ has more economical factors than a technological. T. Kotil said this very applicable in an interview. And gave a war time as an example, where products like this much faster developed and matured in a war time. Same goes for mass production. They can produce 2 jets in a month or 20, if necessary (war time). As a company, I would also delay the project to earn more money from the state. That’s how it goes in a free market economy.

 

[Huelague]

Indonesia is a potential buyer

Malaysia, maybe Egypt, Algeria or Nigeria in the future…