TR Air Defence Programs

Pokemonte13 · Sep 10, 2025

Quick question does anyone know if the latest delivery of ad systems was part of the original order because that was like 600-700 million euros total and showed more deliveries in the coming years? (They showed a bunch of stuff like ew and like normal radar equipment was that part of that deal in 2023 or extra?)

boredaf · Sep 10, 2025

Strong AI said:
An agreement regarding the procurement of Air Defence Systems has been signed between ASELSAN and Presidency of The Republic of Türkiye Secretariat of Defence Industries total valuing EUR 1.650.000.000. Deliveries will be made between the years 2027 and 2031.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1965661245475782945

If that big delivery last month was 470 million euros we could be looking at 4 times, or maybe even more, systems with this order. Excluding any other agreement that was signed before, if they exist. Now that is good investment.

Pokemonte13 · Sep 10, 2025

boredaf said:
If that big delivery last month was 470 million euros we could be looking at 4 times, or maybe even more, systems with this order. Excluding any other agreement that was signed before, if they exist. Now that is good investment.

dollar not euro

MonteCarlo · Sep 10, 2025

Pokemonte13 said:
Quick question does anyone know if the latest delivery of ad systems was part of the original order because that was like 600-700 million euros total and showed more deliveries in the coming years? (They showed a bunch of stuff like ew and like normal radar equipment was that part of that deal in 2023 or extra?)
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Arda Mevlutoğlu claimed that the big delivery might be from first Siper procurment deal signed in 2018 totalling 566 million at the time since this is the first "serial production" delivery of Siper. If that is the case there is still a lot of standing deals waiting to be delivered

BalkanTurk90 · Sep 10, 2025

Can someone who remembers more clearly make a list with deals and how much costs since beginings and is only Aselsan who gets order or aslo others like Roketsan ?

mTT · Sep 12, 2025

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1966412001967542471

ROKETSAN Lifts the Curtain on Türkiye’s Defense Ambitions

ROKETSAN CEO Murat Ikinci at DSEI 2025:

We’re happy to see international delegations here. All our products—from air defense to ballistic missiles—are already in serial production.

On Steel Dome vs. Iron Dome:
Our system integrates Hisar, Siper, Sungur, and more into a layered architecture. The key difference? It’s fully national—radar, sensors, and missiles are all Turkish. We are not dependent on any other country.

On smart munitions:
Turkish drones dominate globally, and our munitions fly on them. We’re the number one on UAV smart munitions. Tested in deserts, cold, and humidity—they’ve proven reliability worldwide.

On Tayfun Block 4 ballistic missile:
Test before year-end, serial production next year. Hypersonic capability will be a game-changer.

On why buy Turkish:
We don’t just sell systems—we build partnerships with full logistics and lifecycle support.

Yasar_TR · Sep 12, 2025

mTT said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1966412001967542471

A lot of waffle without saying too much.
Some important bulletpoints. But nothing new.
Most important question still not asked:
How do you manage to hit target at more than 5Mach speed with Tayfun block-4?

Zafer · Sep 12, 2025

They should not share video from Tayfun4 tests, probably only to show that it hits the target, secrets need to be kept until you hit a high profile live target.

Lool · Sep 12, 2025

Did Rocketsan's manager mention whether Tayfun 4 will be at hypersonic or supersonic speeds upon impact?

Yasar_TR · Sep 12, 2025

Lool said:
Did Rocketsan's manager mention whether Tayfun 4 will be at hypersonic or supersonic speeds upon impact?

If you listen to his interview at IDEF he clearly says that it flies at hypersonic speeds and also hits the target above 5 Mach.

Zafer · Sep 13, 2025

mTT said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1966794339461296495

We have them because we need them.
Somebody must be thinking of a way to stop Türkiye from developing the Kaan by freeing the US from sanctions burden and selling the F35 to Türkiye so that we don't push Kaan hard. Nobody is buying, the world will be a different place after Kaan.

Pokemonte13 · Sep 13, 2025

Zafer said:
We have them because we need them.
Somebody must be thinking of a way to stop Türkiye from developing the Kaan by freeing the US from sanctions burden and selling the F35 to Türkiye so that we don't push Kaan hard. Nobody is buying, the world will be a different place after Kaan

Nothing will stop Kaan only engine perhaps and even if s400 was gone they wouldn’t give us f35 anyway

Iskander · Sep 13, 2025

mTT said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1966794339461296495

If this information is true (which is unlikely), Turkey could theoretically offer Russia its domestic systems in small (!) quantities. The Russians have long had problems with air defense, and the situation will get even worse over time.
The US linked the refusal to supply F-35s specifically to the Russian S-400s. An interesting situation is developing.
I am afraid that if Turkey returns the S-400s, the US will again refuse to supply F-35s, but for a different reason... say, because Turkey... is strengthening the air defense of Russia, an adversary of NATO

boredaf · Sep 13, 2025

mTT said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1966794339461296495

Is there a reason to share what some random guy on twitter says?

Yasar_TR · Sep 13, 2025

Please do not share unsubstantiated personal X messages as if they are true.
Such posts will be deleted. Persistence may attract warnings.

Sanchez · Sep 13, 2025

Zafer said:
We have them because we need them.

We need them but we don't use them.

King_West · Sep 13, 2025

russians Want to Buy Back Their Own S-400s SAM Systems from Turkey – This Is Negative Scenario for Ukraine | Defense Express

The option when the russian federation buys its own S-400 surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems from Turkey will be interesting for both moscow and Ankara, but what risks might Turkey face in this case

en.defence-ua.com

Nilgiri · Sep 13, 2025

King_West said:
russians Want to Buy Back Their Own S-400s SAM Systems from Turkey – This Is Negative Scenario for Ukraine | Defense Express

The option when the russian federation buys its own S-400 surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems from Turkey will be interesting for both moscow and Ankara, but what risks might Turkey face in this case

en.defence-ua.com

Will be funny if these are refurbished and sent to India (which maybe buys more later)

Russia says in talks to India for new deliveries of long-range S-400 missile systems

Russia and India are in discussions to increase deliveries of the S-400 surface-to-air missile systems, according to a Russian defense export official. India already possesses the S-400 system and seeks to expand cooperation in this area, with negotiations currently underway for new deliveries...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

TR_123456 · Sep 13, 2025

Nilgiri said:
Will be funny if these are refurbished and sent to India (which maybe buys more later)

Russia says in talks to India for new deliveries of long-range S-400 missile systems

Russia and India are in discussions to increase deliveries of the S-400 surface-to-air missile systems, according to a Russian defense export official. India already possesses the S-400 system and seeks to expand cooperation in this area, with negotiations currently underway for new deliveries...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

I think they need it for themselves,many Ukranian attacks coming in the future.

King_West · Sep 13, 2025

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TR_123456 said:
I think they need it for themselves,many Ukranian attacks coming in the future.

They indeed needed for themselves to protect from increasing Ukrainian raids. If Russia offers a good price it will be a win-win. Erdogan can claim a good deal, and appease trump.

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