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One of the biggest strategic mistakes in Türkiye‘s short history is the Syria politics after 2010. We are still trying to correct it to some extent but the damage is still done. This topic will keep us busy for the next 50 years unless someone like Ecevit comes to power. Another one is S400 which put our air force in a weak position till 2035. Some people need to assume responsibility for these mistakes.
 

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In Türkiye, children are still being torn to pieces by stray dogs on their way to library or school. What a shame that the state is not able to prevent this! I am disgusted.

I dont get this? Even in Australia we dont allow stray dogs to roam around.

The problem in Australia we still havent banned pitbulls. They cant be bred but they still can be kept as pets. We cant even ban these dangerous dogs thanks to dog worshippers.

Turkiye needs to do something or I want the citizens armed with guns shooting every stray dog on sight.
 

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Good map but Ottoman holdings in Africa were greatly exaggerated. 16th century was the high point in Turkish history.
Some things are a bit controversial, I can't say that I all agree with the things added with paint on the map. But the whole picture gives an idea of the political landscape of the 17th century. It was one of the peaks of Turkic/Islamic history, but also a century of great opportunities missed, as the picture started to reverse rapidly in the following century.

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Like the British Empire,it biggest in Map during 1921 but its highest point in 1860.

İn 1650s Ottomans was still a powerful country but the western were far advanced and stronger than before while Ottomans still depended on old-fashion Janissary and Sipahi.

The 1682 ottomans was in same situation of Russian in 2021.
 
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Those that lean their back to terrorists in the mountains get paid in our parliament....
Those terrorists and their chief who are responsible for more than 40'000 civilian deaths, including babies, are seriously hoping to get released from the prison....
Yet those who are proud to be Turk and just express their political opinion get imprisoned.
We have established 16 Turkic states in history but they all ceased to exist. The only reason for that was we were lenient with our enemies but harsh with patriots who had differing opinions. That is the reason you cannot find even a handful of traitors in USA or other western countries, but in Türkiye they abound.
"Münbittir Anadolu topraklari, ot dan cok hain biter": Anatolian lands are fertile, therein grow more traitors than grass!
 
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It's funny how we've laughed at the west for years for being woke, oh how the tables have turned.

Love him or hate him, there's no denying that Trump loves America. He'll fix a lot of issues and at the very least bring some temporary relief to the slowly declining "empire".

Meanwhile in Türkiye, we're preparing to make peace with PKK, still accepting more refugees and also now imprisoning the leader of the nationalist opposition. We are officially more "woke" than America.
 

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@Tonyukuk Is there a practice of human sacrifice in Tengriism?
"A tree cult was also maintained. Whatever was struck by lightning, man or object was considered a sacrifice to the high god of heaven. The afterlife, to judge from excavations of aristocratic tumuli, as much a continuation of life on earth, warriors being interred with their weapons, horses, and sometimes with human sacrifices: the funeral of one Tudrun in 711-12 saw 300 soldiers killed to accompany him to the otherworld."
 

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Our political class should study the foreign policy moves of our two closest allies Qatar and Azerbaijan, to learn how to do the juggling act that is called 'diplomacy'. Look how Qatar bought influence into Trump admin through Witkoff and his son.
 

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@Tonyukuk Is there a practice of human sacrifice in Tengriism?
Generally no, though due to a lack of a book, some communities may have gone down that path.

Animal sacrifice was a lot more common. Some communities considered every killing of an animal as a sacrifice, whereas others only performed a sacrificial ritual once a year, usually spring.

The problem with Tengrism has always been the lack of a book. Without a book many of its traditions, holidays and rituals have been lost to history. No wonder why it got swallowed by Islam. Even Buddhism has holy books.

If a combined cultural ministry of the OTS collaborated and created a book which serves as a guide to Tengrism and Turkic mythology, I think that would benefit the Turkic world. We are stuck between a slowly declining Western world, an Islamic world which is rotten to the core and a rising China. We need to have our own identity.
 

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Generally no, though due to a lack of a book, some communities may have gone down that path.

Animal sacrifice was a lot more common. Some communities considered every killing of an animal as a sacrifice, whereas others only performed a sacrificial ritual once a year, usually spring.

The problem with Tengrism has always been the lack of a book. Without a book many of its traditions, holidays and rituals have been lost to history. No wonder why it got swallowed by Islam. Even Buddhism has holy books.

If a combined cultural ministry of the OTS collaborated and created a book which serves as a guide to Tengrism and Turkic mythology, I think that would benefit the Turkic world. We are stuck between a slowly declining Western world, an Islamic world which is rotten to the core and a rising China. We need to have our own identity.

Islam was also useful in uniting the various Turkic tribes into 1 state.

Whats interesting too Islamisation of Central Asia was not just due to the Arabs and Persians but the Turco Mongols who became Muslim played a big role in it. You had Muslim Mongols declaring Jihad on Tengrists and Buddhists. Emir Timur also played a role in the Islamisation of Central Asia and his descendant Babur took Islam deeper into India.

It made sense too at the time.

1 God
1 State
1 Empire
1 Book

Muslim Turks also clashed with Buddhist Turks. Buddhist Turks were the ancestors of modern day Uygurs.

People think its religion but its also Geopolitics.

Tengrist Turks even fought among themselves and the Gokturks exiled the Oghuz Turks.
 

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Islam was also useful in uniting the various Turkic tribes into 1 state.

Whats interesting too Islamisation of Central Asia was not just due to the Arabs and Persians but the Turco Mongols who became Muslim played a big role in it. You had Muslim Mongols declaring Jihad on Tengrists and Buddhists. Emir Timur also played a role in the Islamisation of Central Asia and his descendant Babur took Islam deeper into India.

It made sense too at the time.

1 God
1 State
1 Empire
1 Book

Muslim Turks also clashed with Buddhist Turks. Buddhist Turks were the ancestors of modern day Uygurs.

People think its religion but its also Geopolitics.

Tengrist Turks even fought among themselves and the Gokturks exiled the Oghuz Turks.
I think you and @Mis_TR_Like would find this talk quite informative. It is on one of the prinicipal figures responsible for bringing the Turkic world into Islam, Khwaja Ubaidullah Ahrar. Alot of interesting insights into early interactions between the Mongols and the Persian-speaking Muslims of Transoxiana (southern Central Asia).

Even if you are stepping away from islam, it would be informative from a historical perspective. It is given by a lecturer at Cambridge University, a Muslim himself so partial in that way, but still quite rigorous about the academic integrity of his work.



Another lecture of the same series (Paradigms of Leadership) that people might generally find interesting is one on Cosantino of Paros. Which provides a very immersive view into the Spanish and Roman Inquisitions and the interactions between the Ottomans and Christians during these days, focusing on the life of a greek convert to Islam (a "Turk" in those days) Cosantino of Paros.

 

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Just when I was loosing sleep on which one is legit. La Manche or The English Channel?
Thank you Elon 😁

should be "you invaded us once, but never after" channel

putting aside the parliament coup involving the dutch prince of orange of course....though hard to count that as a proper invasion as it was largely uncontested.

catholic vs protestant unsettled turbulence is own long story post henry VIII
 

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Generally no, though due to a lack of a book, some communities may have gone down that path.

Animal sacrifice was a lot more common. Some communities considered every killing of an animal as a sacrifice, whereas others only performed a sacrificial ritual once a year, usually spring.

The problem with Tengrism has always been the lack of a book. Without a book many of its traditions, holidays and rituals have been lost to history. No wonder why it got swallowed by Islam. Even Buddhism has holy books.

If a combined cultural ministry of the OTS collaborated and created a book which serves as a guide to Tengrism and Turkic mythology, I think that would benefit the Turkic world. We are stuck between a slowly declining Western world, an Islamic world which is rotten to the core and a rising China. We need to have our own identity.
Please pardon my preaching Mis_TR_Like, but I wanted to share a Hadith with you. A prophecy regarding the condition of the Muslims during the end of times:

Narrated Thawban:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death.

Sunan Abi Dawud 4297

There was another Hadith as well which I encountered some time ago, about a darkness which would come over the arabs during the end times, but I haven't been able to find it.

The crux of what I am trying to communicate is that, it is factually the case that Muslims today are in a pathetic and defeated condition. However, the prophet did say that exactly this would happen. Perhaps you may find in this a reason to confirm his prophecy.
 

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Kim bu kadın?
Yerli ve milli p.diddy.

Jokes aside, she's one of the big fatcats who run the entire so-called "Turkish media" according to the interests of the globalist cabal.

People like these pretty much dictate who's going to be the next big movie star, which repulsive rap song will be the summer anthem, and so on. And they do so in accordance with their imperialist overseers.

Next time when you see a Turkish celeb drone on about feminism, rojava, armenians etc. remember this he/she looking ass bozo.
 
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