TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

[YeşilVatan]

Hurjet will participate in the US Navy's training aircraft tender in 2028. Recently, we know that Turkish companies are building an ammunition factory in the United States and that they are going to produce a lot of ammunition. I wonder if they will give this tender to Hurjet?

No chance. Unless American MIC gets its cut, they would never go with Hurjet. And they can't milk the tender with Turkey involved. And even then we have a massive disadvantage just because of geopolitics.

Only sliver of chance is Elon and Vivek just wrecks the whole process and forces Americans to go with cost efficient options on non-critical equipment like trainer jets. And this has a real low possibility.

 

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Hurjet will participate in the US Navy's training aircraft tender in 2028. Recently, we know that Turkish companies are building an ammunition factory in the United States and that they are going to produce a lot of ammunition. I wonder if they will give this tender to Hurjet?

Short answer: No. Longer answer: Did the US ever buy any foreign aircraft in significant numbers? They even scrapped a tender and changed the rules because Airbus beat Boeing in the tanker fleet tender.

 

[Sanchez]

Short answer: No. Longer answer: Did the US ever buy any foreign aircraft in significant numbers? They even scrapped a tender and changed the rules because Airbus beat Boeing in the tanker fleet tender.

Depends on the American partner. T-45 this tender set to replace was a British aircraft in BAe Hawk. BAe partnered with Mcdonnell to offer it. Its main rival was Franco German Alpha Jet jointly offered with Lockheed*. With Sierra Nevada, a much smaller company, chances are low without even entering the geopolitics of such a sale. I don't think they would have logistical issues with the aircraft if it was chosen however. US law clearly dictate any foreign system being pretty much buildable and serviceable in the US even if it's chosen. We wouldn't realistically be able to use it as a stick.

Came across the contenders for the old VTX-TS tender where Hawk was chosen.

• Rockwell T-2X
• Gulfstream "Peregrine" tandem-seat derivative
• Grumman/Beech
• Northrop/Vought
• General Dynamics/American Airlines (? ? ?)
• Rockwell NA-424
• Douglas D-7000 (with British Aerospace)
• AerMacchi MB-339 (with Advanced Technology Systems)
• Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jet (with Lockheed California)
• McDonnell Douglas/British Aerospace Hawk

U.S. Navy VTXTS advanced jet trainer proposals

Another competition of interest was VTX for a navy trainer to operate from aircraft carriers. Now if a VTX thread was to start, then we have the Northrop-Vought entry, the McDonnell Douglas entry and the GD TS-81 entry. Any others?

www.secretprojects.co.uk

 

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Shame that so many of these great companies don't exist any more or have been absorbed by 2-3 companies in the industry.

 

[Sanchez]

the Hürjet could be transformed into a platform that can meet the combat jet needs of many small-to-medium sized air forces in the world by providing a light attack capability that can be fully equivalent to the Gripen etc.

Advantage of the Gripen is to buy it you only need to persuade one country for the engines, Ej200 is a consortium project just like the EF-2000 itself. Getting Germans to sign off on a LCA sale to say an African country is a tall order. F404 would be easier. And if we think about a local solution, 3 different engines for a single jet seems like a waste to me. If the Spaniards are interested in paying the costs to make EJ200 fit into Hürjet and all those tests, all the power to them. It would only increase our bond over the aircraft.