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Past 10 years in my job, never seen one silent diesel engine. They run pretty noisy on submarines too. :) Yet we have got a lovely bulkhead (well - isolated) that keeps it away from operations center.

Despite of having maximimum speeds over 20 knots, lead-acid batteries generate toxic gases when heavily loaded and tends to warm up beyond how it can be cooled. I am sure it can run more than several hours at maximum speed (theoretically considering the battery capacity only) but the battery temperature and aforementioned gases wouldn't let it happen.

Been lucky to dive with a submarine before and after MLU, and lastly with one Reis during trials. And i came to this conclusion; the real mastery of diesel-electric submarines come with the PMM (Synchronous motor) and double-platform isolators. AIP, Li-Ion, Lead-acid introduces a little 'bump' there. AIP indeed gives a one-time shot skipping few snorkels and gives an upper hand but it is not enough alone.

While with Preveze and Gür Class Modernizations we are taking these submarines to what Reis Class have, in terms of electronics, sensors, integration of weapon - network systems, the difference of motors and double platform are absolute.

Possibly these two techs will be the bottleneck at Milden programme, i have no doubts on that AIP and Li-Ion can be achieved sooner than PMM double-isolating platforms.
Would you please shed light on Turkey's future API program? I don't see any improvement on that. Thank you in advance.
 

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Would you please shed light on Turkey's future API program? I don't see any improvement on that. Thank you in advance.
Perhaps, This piece by @Yasar_TR might give you a new insight on future of Turkish sub propulsion program(s)

Japanese Soryu class submarines were AIP submarines. However, they produced the last 2 submarines as Li-Ion class. And they are producing the last Taigei class with Li-Ion propulsion too.
Japanese submarine captains complained about the slow speeds of AIP submarines, emphasizing the importance of getting away from the area they are in quickly, after using torpedoes, and in an emergency, and as a result, the Japanese Navy turned to the Li-Ion system in its new submarine concept.

Inspired by the Japanese, we are also studying developing a Li-Ion propulsion system. Although AIP propulsion is planned for Milden, the complexity and external dependency of this system may push us towards Li-Ion powered submarines.
 

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How about the one they fitted on to TCG Gaziantep?

And the one one TCG Beykoz?
Gaziantep just had a barrel replacement. Beykoz had a test article, call it a prototype. And I believe she is now retired. I think they consider these 3 as "serial" production units. Quote is directly from MSB's weekly briefing, not Akbaba's own words.
 

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How about the one they fitted on to TCG Gaziantep?

And the one one TCG Beykoz?

Only the barrell replaced on the Gaziantep. I don't know what entails with the barrel replacement(I thought they just replaced the barrels but it might be more complicated than that) but considering the unique gun position on the Gabya's, I am not sure if full replacement of the gun is possible.
 

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