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Now if we can just do one for AW101 helicopters...
I think they're doing the tech transfer because the engine for opv aren't as important compared to uav, and usv that can sink the vessels. So in a way it's a good trade off for them
 

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Great news. I was asking because I imagine PRC has many backdoors in all tech and communication devices it's selling and gather all sorts of information to be used when necessary, or even cause a blackout paralysing nations.
 

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TAI CEO:

He said, "We have also launched our 3,000-horsepower engine project at TEI. Hopefully, in the early 2030s, we will have presented a helicopter (T-925) to users that we can truly call entirely our own in every aspect."

Wrote years ago about this and why it already is not an official program even if its on the side, people then said how it isn't needed and a waste of time and resources. Maybe if they had started when I asked those question we would have something ready in 2-3 years instead of having to wait until the beginning of 2030s.

You would think if I, a nobody on an internet forum, have that foresight people who earn six figures and whose job its to think and plan into the future would have the same thoughts, but alas.
 

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You think those companies have enough engineers for that? Do you know how hard it is to develope an state-of-the-art aviation engine from scratch? Besides they all concentrated on TF-35000. And since that project shows its fruits, they can concentrate on other projects now.
You gonna know better then Aksit now? He was the one who pushed for the project to get started 5-7 years ago already and was shut down by an incompenten government. Think I'm gonna go with the guy who is responsible for this country even having any engines to speak but thanks though.
 

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You think those companies have enough engineers for that? Do you know how hard it is to develope an state-of-the-art aviation engine from scratch? Besides they all concentrated on TF-35000. And since that project shows its fruits, they can concentrate on other projects now.
Türkiye needs way more engineers, physicists, mathematicians etc.
 
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Well, if prof. Aksit said it so many years ago and it wasn't done. It's either corruption at government level or because of corruption.

I would have said because of not enough engineers, but if the economy is crap. Then people need to watch out for themselves.
 
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You know better than everyone and you are always right. Love you
I? No. I just ask normal question everyone would who isn't fanboying about a incompetent government. Aksit knows better though and he was the one pushing for the project, guess he knows better than you though if he can take on such a project.
 

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Who the fück is MSB AR-GE? no website no info but wankel engine, ramjet missiles, neb etc.
 

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It was a sub-system (should be APU if I'm not wrong) that delayed P0's first flight by 3 months. Dozens of sub-contractors are trying hard to catch timelines. Probably something like that again.
 

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(should be APU if I'm not wrong)
We are aware that APU is not actually required except for day to day operations, right? We've been starting aircraft with hand turning, cartridges and ground units for more than 6 decades.
 

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Internal projects of ministry of defense
Don't we already have companies involved in those projects ?

I think someone pointed out that all these mini R&D were excuses to get their fingers on money and yandas seems a favorite.
 

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Don't we already have companies involved in those projects ?

I think someone pointed out that all these mini R&D were excuses to get their fingers on money and yandas seems a favorite.
We simply don't know. But they don't look like simple money grabs either as some are supported by test footage.
 

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We are aware that APU is not actually required except for day to day operations, right? We've been starting aircraft with hand turning, cartridges and ground units for more than 6 decades.
You want to restart if the engine flames out in flight.
 

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You still risk the remaining engine flamig out, especially when you have not made the engine, so why risk an unlucky crash.
Didn't we argue 2 weeks ago how safety is not that paramount re ejection seats if we can get more aircraft in the air cheaper?
 

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Didn't we argue 2 weeks ago how safety is not that paramount re ejection seats if we can get more aircraft in the air cheaper?
This is a critical first flight not just any flight. You don't want an unlucky event to mar the national fightermaking endeavor.
 
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