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Milletimizin başı sağ olun.... Şehitlerimizin ailelerine Allah sabır versin

Very sad news and inexcusable that we still use 50-60 year old planes.

Devastating news.

Yes crashes happen in all militaries, including the US.

But they're still inexcusable. Every crash is preventable, whether through maintenance, training or upgrades/replacement. Civilian airline aviation has gone incredibly safe over the decades, there's no reason why military aviation can't match it under NORMAL circumstances.

This just suggests enough funds aren't being dedicated to maintaining or replacing these old platforms.

I dont like being political with such a awful event.

Sehitlerimize Allah Rahmet dileyoum.

1. If this is a shot down. Russia and Armenia really deserve to be glassed.

2. Politicians and their penny pinching gets soldiers killed

3. Old is old no matter how many times you maintain it.

First of all, may the souls of all our soldiers rest in peace.

Many possibilities come to mind, but it's best to wait for the results of our government's investigation. The possibilities that come to mind are:

1- Maintenance error or negligence,
2- Sabotage of the aircraft before takeoff,
3- Possibility of being shot down,

These options carry many possibilities in themselves. This is a truly tragic incident. Necessary steps must be taken against those responsible. The root of the problem must be addressed.

May the souls of the departed rest in peace.
TWZ mentioned that this C-130E was modernized through the ERCIYES MLU program. Is that true?

Looks like replacement is coming earlier than we thought hopefully.
C390 looking good now maybe some extra a400m plus new tankers.
Overall it looks like airforce will need to completely overhaul their logistics fleet.
Ideal layout 2040:
15 A400m
10-15 c390
15 c130j/E
50-60 cn 235
10-15 a330 mrtt

May they rest in peace .

begturan said:

First of all, may the souls of all our soldiers rest in peace.

Many possibilities come to mind, but it's best to wait for the results of our government's investigation. The possibilities that come to mind are:

1- Maintenance error or negligence,
2- Sabotage of the aircraft before takeoff,
3- Possibility of being shot down,

These options carry many possibilities in themselves. This is a truly tragic incident. Necessary steps must be taken against those responsible. The root of the problem must be addressed.

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Something that has always concerned and really concerns me since the mossad pager bombing, does Turkiye have a method of checking parts coming from overseas to see if they have been tampered with?

Im gonna be honest here we shouldnt resort to conspiracy theories unless proven. If mossad wants to hit Turkiye so bad wouldnt they target the Airbus A400s? A400s are much more better and advanced than the C130?

So Turkiye bought the plane from Saudi Arabia. Im not really against surplus as long as its maintained right and properly. Still i would take new over surplus anyday.

I find it stupid how some posters are blaming Saudi Arabia when the purchase happened around 2012 or 2013. Its been 13 years for once lets take responsibility

GoatsMilk said:

Something that has always concerned and really concerns me since the mossad pager bombing, does Turkiye have a method of checking parts coming from overseas to see if they have been tampered with?

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Official authorities have to do an in depth research to ensure that there are no questions left in our minds. Not only electronics buying people is very easy nowadays, they can easily find someone to do this.

C-130B/E fleet is grounded as of yesterday until checks are completed.

Q/A from today's weekly briefing:

"1. Was ammunition carried on the aircraft?

Our aircraft was carrying personnel and aircraft maintenance supplies. There was no ammunition on board.

2. Is there any evidence as to the cause of the aircraft's crash?

It is too early to comment on this matter at this time. The cause of the incident will be clarified following the ongoing accident investigation.

3. Is it true that a helicopter was detected in the area on radar recordings at the same time?

It was a Georgian helicopter that went to the area after our aircraft crashed and attempted to make contact with our aircraft.

4. Is it true that an aircraft decommissioned by Saudi Arabia was purchased?

The aircraft in question was purchased from Saudi Arabia on January 21, 2012, and after completion of maintenance, it was added to the inventory in 2014. It was modernized and returned to service in 2022.

It has been in service with regular maintenance since then. However, as claimed, it is not a decommissioned aircraft by the user country, but rather a surplus aircraft. C-130 aircraft continue to be used by Saudi Arabia.

5. Was the downed aircraft old and poorly maintained?

There are no old aircraft, only poorly maintained aircraft. The aircraft in question are regularly maintained by our country. C-130 aircraft are currently in active use in more than 70 countries.
An examination of the downed aircraft's maintenance history reveals:

- The aircraft underwent Erciyes Avionics modernization, and scheduled airframe, engine, and propeller maintenance was completed on time.
- The last maintenance was performed between September 11 and October 12, 2025.

6. Is it true that the black box was brought to our country for examination?

The FDR (FLIGHT DATA RECORDER) and CVDR (COCKPIT VOICE DATA RECORDER) devices, known as the black boxes belonging to our downed aircraft, were brought to our country for examination and examined in Ankara.

7. Will the other C-130 aircraft in the inventory continue their flights?

Our aircraft have been grounded as a precautionary measure as of November 12, 2025. Flights will resume after all technical inspections and inspections have been completed."

So,i think this a plausible cause,

TR_123456 said:

So,i think this a plausible cause,

Turkish C-130 crash likely a center wing box failure - Asia Times

On November 11 a Turkish military C-130E Hercules crashed. There is video of the aircraft breaking up in flight and visual proof that the wings detached

asiatimes.com

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"visual proof that the wings detached from the fuselage and spiraled to the ground" doesn't exist. Videos we have clearly show that wingbox is still in one piece and fuselage tied to it is attached the wings.

TR_123456 said:

Well,explain this then,

Watch | Moment Turkish C-130 Military Cargo Plane Crashes in Georgia

A Turkish C-130 military cargo plane has crashed in Georgia, capturing dramatic footage of the incident as authorities respond#turkish #c130 #planecrash #...

www.youtube.com

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video of our accident and the reconstuction of 2017 accident is almost identical

Quasar said:

video our accident and the reconstuction of 2017 accident is almost identical

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From what's available, in the TUAF543 crash, tail separated first. It was found in a location farther from both the wing assembly and the cockpit and it can't be seen on the videos.

Quasar said:

video of our accident and the reconstuction of 2017 accident is almost identical

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Yeah i was watching this just now.
Lets see what comes out of the ivestigation.